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Subject: game is dead ? what would you change
Even to prepare a tactic for NT it's become painful... so next Ukrainian NT game is dedicated to Greg! (Svolota)
I have proposition to all NT coaches, to boycott the games! All what is need it's simply not declare players to the game! If both teams do not present even 6 players to the match, what it will be?!
If the DEVs doesn't listen the community, let's show them what are we thinking about them!
I have proposition to all NT coaches, to boycott the games! All what is need it's simply not declare players to the game! If both teams do not present even 6 players to the match, what it will be?!
If the DEVs doesn't listen the community, let's show them what are we thinking about them!
You have really strange ideas how to get the changes you want. This won't work, it will only mess things up without any result. Come with ideas and post them so staff members can use these ideas. That's the only thing that works, except from quiting Sokker, that will also work if many managers will do that. Hope not, but it will have an inpact if the managers who quit Sokker becomes really high :/
So the only way to bring everything to normal is 10000 that quit sokker? Greate!
Talking with stuff change nothing! It's already a week that this problem exist, but no oficial info from the staff! Why they have made this? What they are expect from it? Or something.
Talking with stuff change nothing! It's already a week that this problem exist, but no oficial info from the staff! Why they have made this? What they are expect from it? Or something.
But you with your friend alredy show the staff position:
Buy plus or quit sokker!
Buy plus or quit sokker!
To FRDDY_PAITO
you do not like the game, why must provoke other users to join your feeling?
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
Losers acept everything, mr.Admin
Match broadcast will start in 298 seconds. Buy Plus if you don`t like to wait.
That sentence only an information to you. if you are not a patient guy, you can buy PLUS to skip that waiting time. That is very clear message to you, BUY PLUS IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO WAIT. If you cannot afford to buy because you like free play, then you must wait for couple minutes. Sokker already give option to you to choose. If you still cannot accept the option given to you, you have last option. QUIT. But, do not provoke other people to join you. Let them take their own decicion.
Now is clear! Or I buy plus or I quit! It's call forcing if you didn't know.
Now I see that this forum is complity usless.
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you do not like the game, why must provoke other users to join your feeling?
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
Losers acept everything, mr.Admin
Match broadcast will start in 298 seconds. Buy Plus if you don`t like to wait.
That sentence only an information to you. if you are not a patient guy, you can buy PLUS to skip that waiting time. That is very clear message to you, BUY PLUS IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO WAIT. If you cannot afford to buy because you like free play, then you must wait for couple minutes. Sokker already give option to you to choose. If you still cannot accept the option given to you, you have last option. QUIT. But, do not provoke other people to join you. Let them take their own decicion.
Now is clear! Or I buy plus or I quit! It's call forcing if you didn't know.
Now I see that this forum is complity usless.
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you do not like the game, why must provoke other users to join your feeling?
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
Losers acept everything, mr.Admin
yeah, you are right for that. losers accept everything because they are too lazy to see any positive side from the change or because they can not do anything anymore. i agree with you for this.
Match broadcast will start in 298 seconds. Buy Plus if you don`t like to wait.
That sentence only an information to you. if you are not a patient guy, you can buy PLUS to skip that waiting time. That is very clear message to you, BUY PLUS IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO WAIT. If you cannot afford to buy because you like free play, then you must wait for couple minutes. Sokker already give option to you to choose. If you still cannot accept the option given to you, you have last option. QUIT. But, do not provoke other people to join you. Let them take their own decicion.
Now is clear! Or I buy plus or I quit! It's call forcing if you didn't know.
Now I see that this forum is complity usless.
what i understand is, you have 3 option:
1. buy PLUS.
2. not buy PLUS and play for free.
3. quit from the game.
that 3 option are free for you to choose. (actually all of us already know that).
if you do not like the game feature as free player, you can leave the game right now. no need to wait until the seasson end. Or if you have money, you can buy PLUS to support this game and have fun with PLUS features such as arcade games, guest book, logo, more stats, more option to watch 3D match, and etc. ( that if you like this game). And remember, what ever you feel do not make you have right to provoke other users, such as you did on already closed topic.
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
Losers acept everything, mr.Admin
yeah, you are right for that. losers accept everything because they are too lazy to see any positive side from the change or because they can not do anything anymore. i agree with you for this.
Match broadcast will start in 298 seconds. Buy Plus if you don`t like to wait.
That sentence only an information to you. if you are not a patient guy, you can buy PLUS to skip that waiting time. That is very clear message to you, BUY PLUS IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO WAIT. If you cannot afford to buy because you like free play, then you must wait for couple minutes. Sokker already give option to you to choose. If you still cannot accept the option given to you, you have last option. QUIT. But, do not provoke other people to join you. Let them take their own decicion.
Now is clear! Or I buy plus or I quit! It's call forcing if you didn't know.
Now I see that this forum is complity usless.
what i understand is, you have 3 option:
1. buy PLUS.
2. not buy PLUS and play for free.
3. quit from the game.
that 3 option are free for you to choose. (actually all of us already know that).
if you do not like the game feature as free player, you can leave the game right now. no need to wait until the seasson end. Or if you have money, you can buy PLUS to support this game and have fun with PLUS features such as arcade games, guest book, logo, more stats, more option to watch 3D match, and etc. ( that if you like this game). And remember, what ever you feel do not make you have right to provoke other users, such as you did on already closed topic.
yeah, you are right for that. losers accept everything because they are too lazy to see any positive side from the change or because they can not do anything anymore. i agree with you for this.
You see positive in 5 minute ads delay? Funy!
that 3 option are free for tou to choose
atleast they are free
I don't see the fratures to pay for. But now the main feature of plus - it removes ads delay! Very useful featur!
Support the game? Does it have dificulties? Lets talk about "support". If sokker have financial problems and they need more users to subscribe Plus it will be nice to ance that and ask users to support the project volontuary! But they put a 10 minutes and after 5 minutes delay before the match, even NT that was always free for all! If You think it's normal and You see a positive in this kind of attitude, see begining of this post.
The metods with wich Sokker stuff serch for support are dictative. It's a forcmant to pay, not ask for support. And 60s it's a normal time for ads but 5 minutes it's a discrimination of non plus users!
As You a part of Stuff team a concider Yuor position like official:
- pay plus and do not wait
- shut-up and wait or quit
The result will be in 1-3 month. Users that quit sokker will simply not login, so theyr teams will become bots. Thats from one side.
From other side, how many new users that will come will stay in the game? Will they enjoy the 5 minutes delay? How many from 100 ?
And for the end: it's not me who provoked this situation!
P.S. discution with you will continue whene you'll something more informative than "if you don't like to wait, buy plus". You'r look like that ads with this phrase
You see positive in 5 minute ads delay? Funy!
that 3 option are free for tou to choose
atleast they are free
I don't see the fratures to pay for. But now the main feature of plus - it removes ads delay! Very useful featur!
Support the game? Does it have dificulties? Lets talk about "support". If sokker have financial problems and they need more users to subscribe Plus it will be nice to ance that and ask users to support the project volontuary! But they put a 10 minutes and after 5 minutes delay before the match, even NT that was always free for all! If You think it's normal and You see a positive in this kind of attitude, see begining of this post.
The metods with wich Sokker stuff serch for support are dictative. It's a forcmant to pay, not ask for support. And 60s it's a normal time for ads but 5 minutes it's a discrimination of non plus users!
As You a part of Stuff team a concider Yuor position like official:
- pay plus and do not wait
- shut-up and wait or quit
The result will be in 1-3 month. Users that quit sokker will simply not login, so theyr teams will become bots. Thats from one side.
From other side, how many new users that will come will stay in the game? Will they enjoy the 5 minutes delay? How many from 100 ?
And for the end: it's not me who provoked this situation!
P.S. discution with you will continue whene you'll something more informative than "if you don't like to wait, buy plus". You'r look like that ads with this phrase
The metods with wich Sokker stuff serch for support are dictative.
Yuhuuu, rise and shine, wake uuup!
Sokker staff = 0 (zero)
greg = 100% (everything, all)
=> conclusion: buy Plus or die
Was that more comprehensive? Feeling better now? Dont you understand that we have nothing to do with this decision, you can boycott whatever you want, NT, facebook, NSA, CIA, nothing will happen until that one single person decides otherwise.
Yuhuuu, rise and shine, wake uuup!
Sokker staff = 0 (zero)
greg = 100% (everything, all)
=> conclusion: buy Plus or die
Was that more comprehensive? Feeling better now? Dont you understand that we have nothing to do with this decision, you can boycott whatever you want, NT, facebook, NSA, CIA, nothing will happen until that one single person decides otherwise.
So the only way to bring everything to normal is 10000 that quit sokker? Greate!
Talking with stuff change nothing! It's already a week that this problem exist, but no oficial info from the staff! Why they have made this? What they are expect from it? Or something.
Many staff members also don't like it and we are trying to convince the DEVs (greg) to change this Plus ad to something else. We give other ideas and options, we post many good arguments why it should be changed (also arguments copied from the forums of other managers), etc. But as said before, staff can't change it, it's a DEV decision (greg) and if he really doesn't want to change it no one can do a thing about it.
And for the communication part, this has been a problem for many years now. We can't give the managers more news when we don't get more news from the DEVs. But for what is expected with this Plus ad, I guess more Plus managers. Don't think it will happen, but who knows, I don't have the data the DEVs do have and only they can see if it's a succes of not.
But you with your friend alredy show the staff position:
Buy plus or quit sokker!
So again, this is not a staff position, it's just how it is at the moment. And you have 3 options, not just 2 options: buy Plus, play for free with the Plus ad or quit.
Talking with stuff change nothing! It's already a week that this problem exist, but no oficial info from the staff! Why they have made this? What they are expect from it? Or something.
Many staff members also don't like it and we are trying to convince the DEVs (greg) to change this Plus ad to something else. We give other ideas and options, we post many good arguments why it should be changed (also arguments copied from the forums of other managers), etc. But as said before, staff can't change it, it's a DEV decision (greg) and if he really doesn't want to change it no one can do a thing about it.
And for the communication part, this has been a problem for many years now. We can't give the managers more news when we don't get more news from the DEVs. But for what is expected with this Plus ad, I guess more Plus managers. Don't think it will happen, but who knows, I don't have the data the DEVs do have and only they can see if it's a succes of not.
But you with your friend alredy show the staff position:
Buy plus or quit sokker!
So again, this is not a staff position, it's just how it is at the moment. And you have 3 options, not just 2 options: buy Plus, play for free with the Plus ad or quit.
Especially since Greg himself is hard to "reach". And if you reach him, he still will not care, if it are only 1 or 20 people. I agree that the waiting time is contra-productive on the long term and my opinion is, if he wants to get new plus users he will have to invest in features that reach new users to play soccer and makes them want to stay (my list from a page before) instead of trying to force people into plus with the hammer.
Or he could start a new different game with some creative heads here. Something fresh with all the good ideas that aren't implemented here, I am sure there are many that would contribute and it would be easy to get 10'000 members right from the start if it is well done and our needs are listened to. But that would need a lot of time and investment first of course.
Or he could start a new different game with some creative heads here. Something fresh with all the good ideas that aren't implemented here, I am sure there are many that would contribute and it would be easy to get 10'000 members right from the start if it is well done and our needs are listened to. But that would need a lot of time and investment first of course.
You should moderate your own posts instead of others, your language is very offensive, and you should not be staff member.
I would call people to start making official complaints to staff about Freddy_Paito....... he is misusing powers and has offensive language, and such should not be displayed by sokker staff. Press your country >> then staff >> fill out the form >> choose administrator
when i talking here, i am talking as my personal not as staff.
when i show you quote of the rules, then that is my staff star take action.
but i do not like to use my power here.
why so hard to talk as normal users when you have star on your shoulder?
oya, about offensive language, i gave it to you to judge. as for your info, i am not moderating here. i give my opinion same as you give your opinion.
when i show you quote of the rules, then that is my staff star take action.
but i do not like to use my power here.
why so hard to talk as normal users when you have star on your shoulder?
oya, about offensive language, i gave it to you to judge. as for your info, i am not moderating here. i give my opinion same as you give your opinion.
why so hard to talk as normal users when you have star on your shoulder?
Because people read staff answers as that, staff answers.... as long as you have a star, you need to behave, and know that your behaviour will be counted as staff behaviour, wheither it is your personal opinion or official..... and in the other thread you closed the thread with a closing post that was nowhere acceptable... i can highlight the offensive for you:
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
That was when you acted as a moderator....... last time there where problems, you called players Devil and other things, and also had very offensive language, in a debate, of moderating made by you, where you couldnt see the cultural differences between your country and the users in the forum you tried to moderate, again as a acting staff member you where offensive...... i have not talked about your personale debatting, but also there, some people will see you acting as staff.... which you clearly should not be
Because people read staff answers as that, staff answers.... as long as you have a star, you need to behave, and know that your behaviour will be counted as staff behaviour, wheither it is your personal opinion or official..... and in the other thread you closed the thread with a closing post that was nowhere acceptable... i can highlight the offensive for you:
if anyone who cannot accept any change, then he is a looser in his life.
he cannot accept more challenge.
what he can do is only cry.
That was when you acted as a moderator....... last time there where problems, you called players Devil and other things, and also had very offensive language, in a debate, of moderating made by you, where you couldnt see the cultural differences between your country and the users in the forum you tried to moderate, again as a acting staff member you where offensive...... i have not talked about your personale debatting, but also there, some people will see you acting as staff.... which you clearly should not be
And 60s it's a normal time for ads but 5 minutes it's a discrimination of non plus users!
if devs change to 60 second for ads, can you accepted? i will tell to greg if you can accept it. but i am not sure greg will agree. all decicion on his hand. not on staff hands.
You see positive in 5 minute ads delay? Funy!
That depends on how you think for that 5 minutes. I can see the postive and negative from that 5 minutes delay.
about the delay, i already tell greg to remove the delay. but he only reduce it to 300 second.
here was my mail to him at that time if you want to see.
i feel, i have something wrong idea on my mail to him. you can tell me what it is.
if devs change to 60 second for ads, can you accepted? i will tell to greg if you can accept it. but i am not sure greg will agree. all decicion on his hand. not on staff hands.
You see positive in 5 minute ads delay? Funy!
That depends on how you think for that 5 minutes. I can see the postive and negative from that 5 minutes delay.
about the delay, i already tell greg to remove the delay. but he only reduce it to 300 second.
here was my mail to him at that time if you want to see.
i feel, i have something wrong idea on my mail to him. you can tell me what it is.