Subject: game is dead ? what would you change

And 60s it's a normal time for ads but 5 minutes it's a discrimination of non plus users!
if devs change to 60 second for ads, can you accepted? i will tell to greg if you can accept it. but i am not sure greg will agree. all decicion on his hand. not on staff hands.


You see positive in 5 minute ads delay? Funy!
That depends on how you think for that 5 minutes. I can see the postive and negative from that 5 minutes delay.

about the delay, i already tell greg to remove the delay. but he only reduce it to 300 second.

here was my mail to him at that time if you want to see.




i feel, i have something wrong idea on my mail to him. you can tell me what it is.

oh, like that yeah. i am acting as double person then.
okay, thanks for your warning.
you are a trully friend. i like it.

Since You are a stuff member, You are all the time in the forums! The way that You promote paiment as a support of the game, do not forget that You got Your Plus for free as a stuff member!
If You have already forget, there was a 60s delay and no complain on this delay. I was thinking about to buy plus... But whene it's become 600 and after 300 (that show it was not a bug) I have decide that I'll not do it that way!
How many users will join and stay with this politic?
Clear enough?

If You have already forget, there was a 60s delay and no complain on this delay
from i remember, there was complain for that 60's.
very clear and that is why i sent letter to greg like you saw above.
and after this, i will stop give my own opinion on forum.
i am afraid my words will hurt someone.
if anyone want to talk to me, you can send sk-mail to me.

from i remember, there was complain for that 60's.
but not so much!

very clear and that is why i sent letter to greg like you saw above.
did he read it?

The fact is there is no staff member who agree with the delay feature. We all try to change it. There is only 1 guy who makes those decisions and he doesn't discuss them with anybody, not even with other DEVs..
We can all disagree with the method he did it (I still hope he'll change it back to at least 60 secs), but the fact remains buying PLUS now finally gives you great advantage to play the game and it's price is more than justifying..

not only read.
he gave answer that mail.

ups, sorry i broke my promise not to wrote here.
i wont wrote here anymore. promise.
(edited)

i don't like having advantage as a PLUS user,i want competition

not only read.
he gave answer that mail.
so probably we have find one man that can contact greg!

ups, sorry i broke my promise not to wrote here.
i wont wrote here anymore. promise.
don't trole! it does not do you honor!

Revolution man:D
Cry a river here for waiting time provoking all staff members against you, who you see here.
Just like in the film Star Wars:The revenge of the Imperium.

But the Imperium is not yours.
You have enough time to wait matches, if you have so many time to write here to provoke people against staff members, one by one, when they appair here.

@adaca: FREDDY_PAITO is a man, not a robot.He have a patience limit to, like all of us.guzh77 makes this "revolution" against staff intenced, don't you see?

But he should still be able to adress people in a proper maner when acting as staff, it is not the first time he gets carried away while moderating...

Lets crucify Freddy! :)) Actually, staff members are getting tired for taking the blame everytime that somebody makes a horrible decision, therefore he has somekind of an excuse for being carried away from time to time :)

What people don't understand is that staff members don't get free Plus, we actually have to do something to earn it, and I believe linguist don't get Plus for the job they do.

Admins, mods, promoters and linguist have no say in what's being developed or how it's being developed, and we can do nothing to change it.

So the opinion of a staff member is his/her personal opinion and doesn't apply to the rest of the staff. I think the 1 minute wait is good to help maintaining the game economically, but 5 minutes is too much. Others think that there shouldn't even be a one minute wait.

In conclusion: it doesn't matter what we think or do, greg will do whatever he wants, and it's his game so if there's a point when you don't like the game anymore, you could aswell leave because things doesn't seem to be going to change anytime soon.

game is dead ? what would you change

Take a free plus from all staff and give it to promote the game in the form of some contests and prizes for a users (if someone from staff realy like this game, he can do "his job" for free). We should fight for people who have already account in this game, rather than look for new users. Thats my opinion.

Or you could learn to develop Sokker and do it for free. So instead of posting ideas, you post the code and do it yourself.

If you really like this game, you would put the years required to learn programming, and you could fix all bugs and implement new things within a month. And if you love this game, I bet you could easily pay for the server maintenance yourself so we could all be Plus user.

And you love this game, so you would do it for free.

Because you know, paying 2€ a month to support Sokker is crazy.

I'am not a developer and actually i did not mean about developers. Its easy to defend a stupid greg's ideas by admins, mods or promoteurs, because actualy those stupid ideas do not apply to you... Why he do nothing for old users, nothing! I thing if greg (promoters) will make some competitions for users with plus prizes (yeah, those staff's plus), a lot of us will stay with this game. What greg doing for normal user like me? He give me fuckin 300 seconds wait even for National Team games, only matches what i watch :/

Check those numbers and answer me - where is your "promotion"?


2005:

23 november: 15169 (first update which we can see of this topic)

2006:

January: 20374
February: 22751
March: 23885
April: 24359
May: 27202
June: 28301
July: 31406
August: 37050
September: 39051
October: 40424
November: 40516
December: 40266

2007:

January: 42174
February: 42841
March: 47644
April: 46191
May: 47394
June: 48587
July: 50593
August: 50636
September: 53509
October: 54548
November: 58059
December: 55140

2008:

January: 54615
February: 56442
March: 56299
April: 55983
May: 56320
June: 57229
July: 60412
August: 61421
September: 59279
October: 57646
November: 58236
December: 59218

2009:

January: 61082
February: 66119
March: 68107
April: 67912
May: 68865
June: 68027
July: 68199
August: 71194
September: 71131
October: 67849
November: 69837
December: 70521

2010:

January: 68631
February: 71273
March: 71811
April: 73559
May: no updates
June: 73124
July: 68595
August: 69678
September: 70374
October: 65590
November: 64749
December: 64161

2011:

January: 61101
February: 60040
March: 62104
April: 65082
May: 65504
June: 64920
July: 57579
August: 62644
September: 62404
October: 57566
November: 55555
December: 52573

2012:

January: 54711
February: 53055
March: 54065
April: 53514
May: 43019
June: 49373
July: 50733
August: 48370
September: 49616
October: 45694
November: 47772
December: 48031

2013:

January: 41206
February: 43302
March: 38017
April: 39723
May: 39595
June: 38118

Now: 32790


"game is dead?" - yes, with that current management is inevitable...