Subject: game is dead ? what would you change

Testing random factor with arcade games

nice :) too bad its german

Damn, its only friday and there is 2 more days of boring wait before a match :(
I think it would be cool to have 2 league games played in one week. What do you think, should devs speed up the game?

Rather not. Perhaps buy Plus-coins, to play some Arcade games or find some other similar games or maybe even new activities, to pass the time slightly faster.
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Something to watch for you tomorrow :)

11.00
World Cup: Latvija - Magyarország
World Cup: Ukraina - Uruguay
World Cup: Hellas - Brasil
World Cup: Suomi - France

12.00
World Cup: Schweiz - Eesti
World Cup: Srbija - Hrvatska
World Cup: Moldova - Polska
World Cup: Norge - Česká republika
World Cup: België - Việt Nam
World Cup: Italia - Deutschland
World Cup: Bosna i Hercegovina - Österreich

13.00
World Cup: Portugal - România

17.00
World Cup: Argentina - Israel

18.00
World Cup: Chile - England

19.00
World Cup: Perú - Nederland
World Cup: Colombia - Slovensko

I feel like I should provide a logical explanation to this one:

what the FUCK is this? I just change one mid position (actually for more better one cause we couldnt find any space !) and he scores 5 goals?

http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/23988874
http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/23988873

until 80min I was loosing 1-5. How the hell could results differ so much? is this realistic?


1.
I will start by saying that this was not the random factor...it was tactics.
In your first match you played an upfront supporting mid on the middle of the pitch. While your other 2 midds focused on defense. Now I will ask this question (just so you have it in mind when you set your tactics):
How many times have you seen a short pass while attacking in sokker. Its more of a tackle, rebound, boot up-field back to striker and tackle again. Its funny your mid can make a long pass land perfectly on yours strikers head if the mid is in your half and while upfront your strikers can not be found by a smart short pass even if they had waving flags above their heads...that is the game tho.

How was the match score affected by this? Well your defenders and mids in this booting game got the ball to your upfront central mid. Because that player will never make a good pass, he will try to dribble 80% of the time. That makes the opposition central defs to get out of their position and attack the ball. Most of the time they will get it, but its the next 2 moves that count...they will either be caught up front by the next booting or be tackled by your 2 strikers centered right behind him.

This situation creates chances. Also not having players on the sides makes your players play this option more often. Defensively you ware playing 5 def and 2DM's so there ware no problems.

2. Making the changes.

The new mid position brought a midfield fight for the ball. During the first match you skipped mid with long balls...while now here is how marking looked



Your mids never got the ball...then he created more chances...hence the score.
Remember how the ME works ...the closest player attacks the ball.
How did the old mid setup affect the game? Now you can answer your own questions about what you did wrong....its better for the mid to attack the ball moving towards the opposing field not towards yours :) I hope that helped!

PS. I do not have plus so I can't see the matches...I would love to see how the goals ware scored to check if I was right :))
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I didnt understand almost anything. First you say that my offensive mid drawned his defs out of position for att's to have more space but then you say its not ok for him to be there and attack mids from behind? even if this tactical theory is true there is still random factor. I played many matches with that guy with same setup and results could differ from 6-0 to 1-1. Also that match were I won 3-0 with OFF MID he didnt do anything in that match !! no space no nothing thats why i changed the position for better and lost 3-5. I actually had more of the ball in midfield and defence was the same but i passed 5 goals instead of 0. Actually the match where I won 3-0 I was much weaker tactically and where i lost 3-5 I was stronger. my main mid did much more than in won match.
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You played 6 games against him, won 4, draw 1, lost 1, which is fair with the difference between you.... but what you keep looking at is each single match and concluding out from that comparing to only one other single match.... if you want 100% exact results, go do some math assignments...
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at some point im not happy about my won matches too :D lets say i beat one opponent 2 times with same setup 6-2 and 4-3. I thought I can be stronger than him but I didnt win next 3-4 matches. So you know its not good. But its not worst possible engine I guess. Sometimes I just get angry when its important match or clearly the result is from the skies :)

they sabotage they one game with the 300 sec delay of the games...
sokker have one atou compering other managerial, that you can see the games, DONT SABOTAGE THAT!


NO PLUS TILL 300 SECs IS PAST...

+1

thank you :)

no PLUS and no support of sokker till this stupidity is here

Next week I have played Sokker for 7 years. It is still good entertainment, but I think, training could be better, f.e. should it be possible to train all or some (f.e. 8 players) with individual training. If few players is lack of f.e. speed, you have to train all to raise these.
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clearly the result is from the skies :)

It never is. You can sometimes be unlucky and it's f***ed up when it happens with imporant matches, but in most cases you will win :) But the results are never just from the skies, as you called it. It's always based on data and calculations :)

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my plus expired 10 days ago and I´m one of those that thinks its a big bullshit made with waiting for matches to start, even NT. Making users pay for something they already had is not step forward its big step backward. someone mentioned that sokker big advantage is watching games, I don`t know, cause I play only sokker, but was one of best things.
I logged in to see game, forgot that I can`t without waiting. Only thing that keeps me in game are users that lead our NT and some users on forum, especialy from Hrvatska and Srbija.
Fuck it greg or anyone else responsable, sell the game to people willing to make it advance, better job made guys with osokker and sokker viewer.