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Subject: Do sokker need to reset teams without manager?

2013-08-03 09:49:15
If you only think about yourself and your economy, then your right. If you think about all the managers who are in bottom and/or low leagues and can't promote because of strong botteams, then it's a completely different story.

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2013-08-03 10:07:36
Putting all players on the transfermarket will have much lower prices as result.

I don't think this will have such an impact on the prices. Maybe the first time a bit more as in the future because many teams will be reset a the same time. But the impact can be lowered if it's done during the 2 week without competition and not all countries at the same time. For example after every 3 days (deadline on TL) reset 25 countries.
2013-08-03 10:29:40
A normal team releases only a couple of trained players per season. An ownerless team can release up to 20 very good players at once.
For the top of the market, every extra top player well have effect. The amount of offered players will raise, the demand will be the same.

Also on the lower levels this will happen, ask an admin how many teams that exist longer then 4 seasons they make ownerless per season. Think of how many extra players that well bring on the market. Ask a dev how many players sold per season for over 100k euro. I think the account of extra players will be over 5%. That increase really big issues.
If you do those selling in 2 weeks real managers can not put players on the transferlist then because of the overload of players. Also will all smart managers buy only then because of the same overload of cheap players then.

A good healthy game economy is a very tricky business. Just change things there can be a high risk and kill a game.

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2013-08-03 10:57:01
Example, I've 2 rare players. Not rare in teams. But no more then around 40 per season on the transferlist. When they will be transferlisted there will be around 15 million less in the economy, but also there will be 5% more of these players on the transferlist. Let's say around 5 teams per season that quit look like my team. Then 75 million left the economy and 25% more of these players will be transferlisted.

I only speak about 10 players more on the transferlist in this example, not more than that.
2013-08-03 11:26:12
One thing you forget is that only strong(er) teams have these rare players and they will be the ones earning a bit less. Weaker teams, as there are more of these teams as stronger teams, therefore will benefit the most of more strong player on the TL. So maybe a positive outcome could be the gap will become smaller between strong and weak teams.

And yes, money will leave the game but I don't think that's a problem as money is also put in the game with sponsors and ticketincomes. And when weaker teams become stronger and win more matches as they do now and because of that earn more sponsormoney and get more supporters, and then can rebuild their stadiums faster because of that, more money will enter the game again.
2013-08-03 11:44:08
You think only strong teams have this problem? Just make a calculation of how many teams quit that have 18 to 20 yo players that are worth between 500 and 1500k euro and how many are transferlisted. Do not forget to take that money out of the game too. (Triple it because of the circulation of money)

Weaker teams get way much more problems to make money so they do not really benefit.

And my last thing take that 75 million (around 225 in real effect ) and make some counting how many teams should get more sponsor money, and if they get much les for their players how do they pay for building better stadiums?

(And now I quit this discussion as I think we only discuss it as users, devs will never implement it that way ;-) )
2013-08-03 20:06:46
u r stupid because u think like that!!!!!!!

very intelligent!

I have joined sokker whene Ukrainian league was full of bots in high division, we all played with them! and we learn how to play with them. For some time a bot team even played with users teams in top league!

The problem of bot teams is not in "momy I can't win a bot tema (crying)!" but in that people leave sokker! They have build a good team, spend a lot of time on it and to join the high division... But they have abandon it!
And that's the problem! Not the bot teams.
2013-08-04 15:14:02
@ guzh77

dude....
when they abandon their clubs...its become a BOT TEAMS!
WITH NO MANAGER! and with no use to win a trophy - because why the hell BOT needs to win trophy?
...
2013-08-05 07:25:26
read once-again... dude! you have understand nothing.
2013-08-05 11:37:28
You're right, we discuss this as users without any data to support numbers, which makes it very difficult to predict the outcome :)

Best would be if the DEVs have somekind of simulation to run tests and see what happens during the season and after a couple of seasons.
2013-08-05 19:52:28
there is an answer among these posts if the ideas are combined somehow to fill the plot holes.

i liked a few ideas e.g mourinhos if its tweaked
and so many are better than current system
2013-08-05 19:56:52
and so many are better than current system

That's a fact ;D