Subject: let's show our opinion

OK, as it seams to me that I am alone in my fight against supid delay and preasure of users to pay PLUS (with this delay), I decide to open this topic

to be clear - from my point of view delay is the biggest stupidity and it is killing of sokker

if you (real users reading this forum and trying to help sokker) will convince me, that my opinion is supid and delay is correct, I will stop my attacks agianst it.

To be honest, I believe that this topic will be close as soon as possible and I will gain ban (OK, to be honest I am writing this not to gain ban and not to close this tipis, because if it will happen, I am correct).

So, let's discuss, let's be open, so not worry

there is 2 possibilities - you will prove me, that this decission is correct and I will become agian member of staff (at least tutor if staff will want me back), or supid delay will be over (or at least we told to owners that we do not agree and after few months they could not be surprised that there is not so many PLUS users).

show your opinion in your best way - you can influence sokker now

for languagist - please, translate this to you native languages to see, what is the opinion of sokker users...

just bought my plus although I'm very dissapointed with managed game, could be my last plus because if in one year this is the same, I probably never buy plus anymore

I am PLUS user and I do not care about delay, I will pay PLUS in all cases

I think it is normal that PLUS uers have some advantage against non PLUS users.
That is where we pay for, there has to be difference.
I think the difference is to small in this game so i think it is good to have some new rules.
I like this game more than every other game i did play before and will pay for it as long as this game is online.
Beautifull 3D live game and very nice tactic editor!

SOKKER will never die!

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I accept your opinon, let's show me that I am wrong and I am not helping sokker

thank you for vote and than you for your opinion

I'm sorry to say, but this topic is completely useless. Not because there has been tons of discussions on this theme, but because there are more than 30k users in theory, and perhaps a few hundred active forum-users, and perhaps a few dozens will vote here. Second, you will prove me, that this decission is correct, we cant. We would need some statistics, Plus buyers before the delay, Plus buyers after the delay, and i suppose only greg could help you with this.

To be honest, I believe that this topic will be close as soon as possible and I will gain ban

It's sad to see that some of you guys have this opinion regarding staff members. IMO this delay stuff was a financial decision, since it's still active, i guess it payed off.

It's sad to see that some of you guys have this opinion regarding staff members. IMO this delay stuff was a financial decision, since it's still active, i guess it payed off.

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I accept your opinion and thank you for it - it will help to make it more clear - I can accept that I am wrong, I just need to have some proof

greg will not help, so just show your opinion, this is what I want

We would need some statistics, Plus buyers before the delay, Plus buyers after the delay, and i suppose only greg could help you with this.

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What i laugh most about is that there are a lot negative managers here that are on the forum with negative comment every day...., seems that they are online every day..., log in every day and so are not leaving the game. If they were really so negative they would not be here anymore ;)
They just want to be negative and in the meanwhile they like the game, but are to negative to be honest ;)

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ok, smurf, I like you, I also like happy song

but how we will escape from cages?

all the time you are telling we are negative - but are you sure? What os positive on delay from your point of view?

Plus users went from 2800 to 2500 since may..... there has been statistic program here collecting the data...

Because of all negative talk here more people leave the game.
Of course there are people leaving for other reasons also.

But being negative all the time here is ABSOLUTELY not the solution, that is what i can say for sure.
I know even 100% for sure it is even worse for Sokker being so negative than putting delay in the game....
So all that negative talk will not help, if we want to save the game we have to be less negative.
Okay, Greg is not listening all the time, but please let us save Sokker ourselves than!

In my life i worked for around 7 or 8 companies and in all those companies it was not perfect.
Fact is where ever you are there are things you don't like.
In Sokker communication is not good okay, but the tactic editor and the game on sunday is 1 of the best in the world if we look at other online sokker games.
I did play them all and tell me which sokker game is better if we look at those two things(?)
I mean really way better than Sokker, i can't find them myself.

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I've missed that topic, but if those numbers are accurate than this is something that greg should be worried about and it might have something to do with the current issue. But to be honest, i blame the promoting system. Sokker needs a much better promotion.

Just a remark and observation..I see Charles is viewed as a DEV defender or henchman here, but he is actually one of the biggest critics of DEVs on the staff forum and probably the most active one in terms of posting bugs and ideas..You don't have to always agree with him but from what I can tell he is trying his best to help sokker.. I think he also wrote multiple times that the delay was a bad idea..In fact, there is not a single staff member on the Linguists forum (were new features are discussed) and that includes Damian, that agreed with the delay. We all were very upset about this. We all tryied to explain to greg that it was a wrong marketing move, you have to add new attractive features to Plus account (arcade was a way to go), not remove features that were once for free.

All this complaining and arguing here is absolutely for nothing, greg only listens to himself and won't change his mind..Nobody knows the financial situation of sokker and perhaps the ads are the only way to save this game..but since greg doesn't communicate with his staff we can all just speculate.. as frustrating as it is, the only thing that mathers and the only thing you can do is get over it, accept it and try to enjoy sokker as much as possible and if you are optimist, hope for the better days..