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Subject: let's show our opinion
start with real arguments, please:
how could I help to improve?
where could I put my ideas and where can I see if (and how) they will be solved?
how can I show my opinion?
3 simple qustion, but very hard to answer - or not?
as I told, I was trying to advice some improvements, noone is caring. Lots of users in CZ community offer good improvements (for example to make CZ leagues more interesting for both current and new users) - noone is caring.
but you are also just arrogant as the most of staff, you just want that someone will tell thank you very much, you are the greatest person and only because of you sokker is alive. No, also because of you sokker is dyeing. You are just attacking everyone who want to do something, because you "made everything possible to prepare it the best for all of us".
how could I help to improve?
where could I put my ideas and where can I see if (and how) they will be solved?
how can I show my opinion?
3 simple qustion, but very hard to answer - or not?
as I told, I was trying to advice some improvements, noone is caring. Lots of users in CZ community offer good improvements (for example to make CZ leagues more interesting for both current and new users) - noone is caring.
but you are also just arrogant as the most of staff, you just want that someone will tell thank you very much, you are the greatest person and only because of you sokker is alive. No, also because of you sokker is dyeing. You are just attacking everyone who want to do something, because you "made everything possible to prepare it the best for all of us".
you want sokker take all SO work? sokker can do it. but after that, SO will be useless.
see you got something common with Charly... it's paranoia! (sorry) I haven't write that it must take all from SO! but it can take some features for plus users! like spreadsheet view (optional).
you can see HT has plenty of CHPP. why no one protest in HT that HT should have features like HO and HT -world?
Charly? Is it you?
you asking for more PLUS features is the same like you are a sokker owner.... post similiar idea there in the past.
I see you have some problem with "thinking". I'll explain! (for thous who are retarded) I have write an example that Plus has nothing to propose and doesn't develop in years! And if your "Master" want's to have more Plus users it's not ads-delay that should be aded it's features in Plus! If you want to sell something that doesn't correspond to the market and time - improve it! Almost all other creepy online football managers gives you possibility to put a badge and change your team fit! They have spreadsheet team view and training reports, they have modern design and etc. They are all sheet comparing to sokker if we look deeper than visual perception. But in this aspect soaker it's like a retarded cuisine Charly! Users are are accustomed to such possibilities. If they want more than proposed templets and more features, they pay. So comparing to them sokker still leave in 2007!
Don't be like Charly, think a little!
see you got something common with Charly... it's paranoia! (sorry) I haven't write that it must take all from SO! but it can take some features for plus users! like spreadsheet view (optional).
you can see HT has plenty of CHPP. why no one protest in HT that HT should have features like HO and HT -world?
Charly? Is it you?
you asking for more PLUS features is the same like you are a sokker owner.... post similiar idea there in the past.
I see you have some problem with "thinking". I'll explain! (for thous who are retarded) I have write an example that Plus has nothing to propose and doesn't develop in years! And if your "Master" want's to have more Plus users it's not ads-delay that should be aded it's features in Plus! If you want to sell something that doesn't correspond to the market and time - improve it! Almost all other creepy online football managers gives you possibility to put a badge and change your team fit! They have spreadsheet team view and training reports, they have modern design and etc. They are all sheet comparing to sokker if we look deeper than visual perception. But in this aspect soaker it's like a retarded cuisine Charly! Users are are accustomed to such possibilities. If they want more than proposed templets and more features, they pay. So comparing to them sokker still leave in 2007!
Don't be like Charly, think a little!
I can only say what I'm doing to help, and no, I don't need a 'thank you' in return, I just do it because I like to help.
- I post all (interesting) ideas I see on the Linquist forum to show the DEVs. I also did that for a long time on the test server, but for a (personal) reason I stopped doing that for now.
- I try to help as many new managers as possible. Most of the times Dutch managers, but I have also helped managers from other countries.
- I have made serveral newbie tutorials to give new managers my advises how to get started with Sokker.
- I have made many logos, not only because I like to do that, but also because it's a Plus option and managers who like to use the logo option from Plus should get a logo.
- I have discussed Sokker dicisions with the DEVs / greg many times. And not only with DEVs and greg, but also many other staff members as I think many aren't doing their best anymore as they ones did and some should even be replaced because of that (my opinion!).
- I was Sokker promotor and tutor, and now I am a Sokker linquist, because I want to help Sokker and Sokker Nederland.
Think I have posted most of the things I do to help. Does it all help, I don't know, but most probably a lot better as making topics with polls to piss even more people of.
And for the last time, I don't attack just everyone, only those who are making things worse!
- I post all (interesting) ideas I see on the Linquist forum to show the DEVs. I also did that for a long time on the test server, but for a (personal) reason I stopped doing that for now.
- I try to help as many new managers as possible. Most of the times Dutch managers, but I have also helped managers from other countries.
- I have made serveral newbie tutorials to give new managers my advises how to get started with Sokker.
- I have made many logos, not only because I like to do that, but also because it's a Plus option and managers who like to use the logo option from Plus should get a logo.
- I have discussed Sokker dicisions with the DEVs / greg many times. And not only with DEVs and greg, but also many other staff members as I think many aren't doing their best anymore as they ones did and some should even be replaced because of that (my opinion!).
- I was Sokker promotor and tutor, and now I am a Sokker linquist, because I want to help Sokker and Sokker Nederland.
Think I have posted most of the things I do to help. Does it all help, I don't know, but most probably a lot better as making topics with polls to piss even more people of.
And for the last time, I don't attack just everyone, only those who are making things worse!
you did, you did, you did... and what you improved?
just answer me 3 questions above...
just answer me 3 questions above...
I can't tell you what you should do, I can only tell you what I have done till now, as I did in the other post. And yes, it was full of 'I' and I explained why, smartass!!!
And what I have improved, at least I made some managers happy with their logo, helped new managers with advices and with the help of the newbie tutorial, got possitive responses back so I know they liked it, I think we (some staff members) did reach greg at some moment and the survey is made because of that, and some others things hopefully. You can't always know what you have actually changed as you can't measure it, but that's not the point. I already told you I don't need a 'thank you', but it seems you do need that before you want to help Sokker, right? You want or even need something in return.
And what I have improved, at least I made some managers happy with their logo, helped new managers with advices and with the help of the newbie tutorial, got possitive responses back so I know they liked it, I think we (some staff members) did reach greg at some moment and the survey is made because of that, and some others things hopefully. You can't always know what you have actually changed as you can't measure it, but that's not the point. I already told you I don't need a 'thank you', but it seems you do need that before you want to help Sokker, right? You want or even need something in return.
I was also helping to newbie as tutor and I saved few of them to be here... I was trying to give other possibilities not to use delay. But how to help if noone is listening?
so just answer me 3 questions above! I know you can't, but you can use quite lot of stupid words for someone, who is pointing on this.
thank you the best manager on sokker, thank you that you are the most helping here. Thank you number one (to be clear, I am ironic)
so just answer me 3 questions above! I know you can't, but you can use quite lot of stupid words for someone, who is pointing on this.
thank you the best manager on sokker, thank you that you are the most helping here. Thank you number one (to be clear, I am ironic)
Yuor not the first who say that Charly do to much of self-promotion.
Next step, he'll use one of his phrase like:
- I did..! What did you did?
- Stop moing or leave!
- Your fool/stupid/troll in different phrase forms
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Next step, he'll use one of his phrase like:
- I did..! What did you did?
- Stop moing or leave!
- Your fool/stupid/troll in different phrase forms
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-It is forbidden to use bad or vulgar language.
All MODs are sleaping? Or the staff members protects each other?
All MODs are sleaping? Or the staff members protects each other?
I sent my proposal on tutor forum - no real response
I give proposals to admins when I received nosense TPA - no real response
you are not explaining anything, you are just blindly reapet still the same, you don't want to hear any real argument. Everyone with different opinion is *censored* or something else for you...
why to gain feedback what will happened with some proposal? Maybe just to have motivation to give any. users like you who don't want to change anything (and everyone who want to change something are just complaining or argueing against everything) are killing sokker. you are really just talking about yourself, but you have no added value for real sokker.
Yes, you are great thet you prepared logo for everyone. Yes, you are great that you are translating news for your community. (to be clear, I am not ironic). But you are still killing this game as you are not hearing to other opinion than yours. And you are just attacking without real arguments, you are just telling users to leave (and you do not care if they are tutors, plus payers or only users). You are not better then me. So everything what you told about me it is the same for you. You did not do nothing more than me for this game. I am telling users not to pay PLUS ot not to be members only till stupud delay will remain. You are telling users to leave forever.
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I give proposals to admins when I received nosense TPA - no real response
you are not explaining anything, you are just blindly reapet still the same, you don't want to hear any real argument. Everyone with different opinion is *censored* or something else for you...
why to gain feedback what will happened with some proposal? Maybe just to have motivation to give any. users like you who don't want to change anything (and everyone who want to change something are just complaining or argueing against everything) are killing sokker. you are really just talking about yourself, but you have no added value for real sokker.
Yes, you are great thet you prepared logo for everyone. Yes, you are great that you are translating news for your community. (to be clear, I am not ironic). But you are still killing this game as you are not hearing to other opinion than yours. And you are just attacking without real arguments, you are just telling users to leave (and you do not care if they are tutors, plus payers or only users). You are not better then me. So everything what you told about me it is the same for you. You did not do nothing more than me for this game. I am telling users not to pay PLUS ot not to be members only till stupud delay will remain. You are telling users to leave forever.
edit: self cunsored as Charles Hill post was deleted
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Also here, troll? Already told your friends what a loser you really are?? Or no friends?
Did I answer your questions? Yes I did. You never asked me to give the answers you like!
yes, you did. not with real arguments, but you answered my questions
I just want to remind all of you some sokker rules:
2. It is forbidden to use insulting or vulgar language:
-It is forbidden to threaten, insult, tease or provoke other users
-It is forbidden to use bad or vulgar language.
-This includes masking any of the above (ie using replacement characters instead of a few of the characters or using obvious misspellings to represent a curse word).
If this continues in any form or shape, I'm going to "reward" all particicpants and close this topic as it's only purpose seems to be insult each other..
2. It is forbidden to use insulting or vulgar language:
-It is forbidden to threaten, insult, tease or provoke other users
-It is forbidden to use bad or vulgar language.
-This includes masking any of the above (ie using replacement characters instead of a few of the characters or using obvious misspellings to represent a curse word).
If this continues in any form or shape, I'm going to "reward" all particicpants and close this topic as it's only purpose seems to be insult each other..