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Subject: let's show our opinion
No need to insinuate things
you're too serious, i didn't insinuate things, i've just teasing
Killing the game can be done a lot easier by greg
but the earth will still rotate around the sun.
To be on topic: i'll pay plus as long as i'll enjoy , as long as i'll find this game funny
you're too serious, i didn't insinuate things, i've just teasing
Killing the game can be done a lot easier by greg
but the earth will still rotate around the sun.
To be on topic: i'll pay plus as long as i'll enjoy , as long as i'll find this game funny
And I bite ...
but the earth will still rotate around the sun.
Absolutely, no one will live a day less because of dumb Sokker implementations. And those who do live a day less because that ....
but the earth will still rotate around the sun.
Absolutely, no one will live a day less because of dumb Sokker implementations. And those who do live a day less because that ....
Everyone complains but, tell me, do you work for free? Do you have an idea of how does it feel?
no, I am not working for free (even if I was tutor for free...)
I don't mind to pay PLUS and I was paying when I gain something more (graphs, visible changes of skill...). But this delay is like terorism and matches are just abuses... I don't like when someone is pushing anyone else to do something just because they are not able to give some additional added value. Delay is killing sokker, more and more user will stop to play as they will not be able to watch matches. I would not mind to use more advertisement for non plus users. But this all would be much more hard than just use the best point on this game and totally ruin it with words "pay or wait veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time".
Now owners are really like drug dealers, first they catch players to give them matches (later 3D matches and I would not mind that 3D would be only for PLUS), then told pay or be very patient. Sorry, the most of people cannot be patient and noone likes to wait.
no, I am not working for free (even if I was tutor for free...)
I don't mind to pay PLUS and I was paying when I gain something more (graphs, visible changes of skill...). But this delay is like terorism and matches are just abuses... I don't like when someone is pushing anyone else to do something just because they are not able to give some additional added value. Delay is killing sokker, more and more user will stop to play as they will not be able to watch matches. I would not mind to use more advertisement for non plus users. But this all would be much more hard than just use the best point on this game and totally ruin it with words "pay or wait veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery long time".
Now owners are really like drug dealers, first they catch players to give them matches (later 3D matches and I would not mind that 3D would be only for PLUS), then told pay or be very patient. Sorry, the most of people cannot be patient and noone likes to wait.
another choice I don´t see in the poll:
"I´m not plus, I could pay the PLUS, at least once, just to cooperate a little, but, you know what... I don´t want to pay, I will never pay, I like people working hard for me for years AND now I have a perfect excuse: I don´t pay because of the delay!
Then I´ll go to the bar this weekend and waste 50 euros, or dollars or whatever, in beer and drinks. But, of course,I´m not miserly... I just want some justice in the world! I won´t tolerate the delayed games for the poor innocents".
SHAMELESS
it would be very shame to think like this. But I know that lots of users who are against it tried to help sokker in some way and now they are pissed of with total stupid decision which is showing we don't care about users, we just care only about current profit...
"I´m not plus, I could pay the PLUS, at least once, just to cooperate a little, but, you know what... I don´t want to pay, I will never pay, I like people working hard for me for years AND now I have a perfect excuse: I don´t pay because of the delay!
Then I´ll go to the bar this weekend and waste 50 euros, or dollars or whatever, in beer and drinks. But, of course,I´m not miserly... I just want some justice in the world! I won´t tolerate the delayed games for the poor innocents".
SHAMELESS
it would be very shame to think like this. But I know that lots of users who are against it tried to help sokker in some way and now they are pissed of with total stupid decision which is showing we don't care about users, we just care only about current profit...
"Now owners are really like drug dealers, first they catch players to give them matches, then told pay or be very patient"
first they catch, then they told to pay...
THEY ARE WAITING SINCE 2005 TO GET SOME PAY BACK! DON´T YOU SEE THAT?
Do you have any idea of how much does it cost THIS? Have you ever asked for a server service, just to know?
dude, try to get the point: how many beers could it take to a user, to pay the plus? EVERYONE IS GETTING DRUNK SINCE 2005 OH COME ON!
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first they catch, then they told to pay...
THEY ARE WAITING SINCE 2005 TO GET SOME PAY BACK! DON´T YOU SEE THAT?
Do you have any idea of how much does it cost THIS? Have you ever asked for a server service, just to know?
dude, try to get the point: how many beers could it take to a user, to pay the plus? EVERYONE IS GETTING DRUNK SINCE 2005 OH COME ON!
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"it would be very shame to think like this. But I know that lots of users who are against it tried to help sokker in some way"
if you got the point, you would see I´m not talking about those users. I´m talking about all the others. And more important, I´m talking about being fair to people who are working since 2005 basically just to pay the costs and nothing else.
edit: do you wanna point the "delay" issue? Ok, go and point that, and years before, it was the bad graphics, and before, the bad engine. There´s always an excuse to avoid pointing the most important thing in here: THEY ARE ALMOST WORKING FOR FREE.
THAT´S THE POINT, IF YOU ARE AN HONEST PERSON.
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if you got the point, you would see I´m not talking about those users. I´m talking about all the others. And more important, I´m talking about being fair to people who are working since 2005 basically just to pay the costs and nothing else.
edit: do you wanna point the "delay" issue? Ok, go and point that, and years before, it was the bad graphics, and before, the bad engine. There´s always an excuse to avoid pointing the most important thing in here: THEY ARE ALMOST WORKING FOR FREE.
THAT´S THE POINT, IF YOU ARE AN HONEST PERSON.
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common, don't push me to think that you are another blind person...
so once more - I am here almost 6 years and I paid at least 4 PLUS (I think 5, but I don't rememeber exactly and I cannot prove it). About 3 years I was mentor (before tutors were introduced)/tutur. I never argue abotu anything else than delay (as well as other user).
They was never worked for free, plus was still paid.
Never told me again that I am not honest. Or at least give me real argument where I am not honest - or should it be just another personal attack (like others when I started to fight)?
Why users like you needs to be so much blind and don't want to listen any kind of argument? From your point of view it is only one way how to be "fair". It is not, now almost everyone on net is gaining money from advertisemet (or at least they are trying) or with real added value. Not with blocking of current functionalities...
so once more - I am here almost 6 years and I paid at least 4 PLUS (I think 5, but I don't rememeber exactly and I cannot prove it). About 3 years I was mentor (before tutors were introduced)/tutur. I never argue abotu anything else than delay (as well as other user).
They was never worked for free, plus was still paid.
Never told me again that I am not honest. Or at least give me real argument where I am not honest - or should it be just another personal attack (like others when I started to fight)?
Why users like you needs to be so much blind and don't want to listen any kind of argument? From your point of view it is only one way how to be "fair". It is not, now almost everyone on net is gaining money from advertisemet (or at least they are trying) or with real added value. Not with blocking of current functionalities...
dude, try to get the point: how many beers could it take to a user, to pay the plus? EVERYONE IS GETTING DRUNK SINCE 2005 OH COME ON!
when I am going to pub, noone is telling me - pay me 1 EUR to give you chair, table, glass, service or anything else. They are trying to give me all them best (smiles, good beer, great servise) to proove me to pay some tip. This is my point - try to get this...
when I am going to pub, noone is telling me - pay me 1 EUR to give you chair, table, glass, service or anything else. They are trying to give me all them best (smiles, good beer, great servise) to proove me to pay some tip. This is my point - try to get this...
illing the game can be done a lot easier by greg
+1
It's just incompetence of Greg and lack of SEO or "merchendiser" (not sure if it's correct) in general stuff of sokjer.org
Tuttors doesn't solve the problem. Someone must direct this "moves" and know what he/she do.
And no need to eryse the parition, just dellete the domaine sokjer.org
+1
It's just incompetence of Greg and lack of SEO or "merchendiser" (not sure if it's correct) in general stuff of sokjer.org
Tuttors doesn't solve the problem. Someone must direct this "moves" and know what he/she do.
And no need to eryse the parition, just dellete the domaine sokjer.org
Another Greg's fan?
Yes, they have worked since 2005... Actualy there is many startups and online games every year, did you pay all of them just for "theyr work"?
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Be honest: Sokker suffer from lack of founds due to a bad managment, not due to a greedy users! Thats the point, if you are an honest person.
Yes, they have worked since 2005... Actualy there is many startups and online games every year, did you pay all of them just for "theyr work"?
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Be honest: Sokker suffer from lack of founds due to a bad managment, not due to a greedy users! Thats the point, if you are an honest person.
Then I´ll go to the bar this weekend and waste 50 euros, or dollars or whatever, in beer and drinks.
sounds like a plan :D
sounds like a plan :D
It is bad to pressure non-plus users to buy plus by making them wait to see their match....I dont think that helps sokker become a better game.
I have to add my opinion on this: as a non-plus user, i still dont mind this too much, i just watch pornography for 5 minutes
:)
I have to add my opinion on this: as a non-plus user, i still dont mind this too much, i just watch pornography for 5 minutes
:)
Please try spinning an idea Bilarnotti. We are making me look like a subnormal. The shouts and laughter without arguments leave them to the national forum.
Do not try to explain things. The kid has trouble understanding ...
Bilarnotti can not make more complex plans to go to drink beer Lol