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Subject: let's show our opinion

2013-09-24 06:51:27
I have plus, I do not like the delay, but it is no reason to not buy plus. Why is that not an option?

I also do not like that not plus can not watch matches of other people. I think this 2 things are mistakes of Greg. But still sokker is a great game, so I buy plus.
2013-09-24 07:01:20
It's sad to see that some of you guys have this opinion regarding staff members. IMO this delay stuff was a financial decision, since it's still active, i guess it payed off.

it's nod paid ads, so it doesn't gain money it self.
2013-09-24 07:16:06
do you prefer delay before games, or much slower server?
actually you don't watch the game online, few Kb is downloaded to your computer including viewer and flash data file. counting number of users, you don't need a server better than 3 years ago.
2013-09-24 08:58:12
That's not the point. The point is that the question who like delay before game? is a stupid question if you don't know the alternative. And we can't know the alternative as we are not greg.
2013-09-24 09:05:04
it was a replay on which post?
2013-09-24 09:09:26
This one ofcourse: do you prefer delay ...... better than 3 years ago.

Actually both if I think about it. The Plus ad is a financial decision, and Plus ad = match delay. So without enough Plus income, what is the alternative? And that's something we can't know.
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2013-09-24 10:13:18
This one ofcourse: do you prefer delay ...... better than 3 years ago.

there is no such phrase in post! like you say: is it your sudden amnesia?)))

Actually both if I think about it. The Plus ad is a financial decision, and Plus ad = match delay.
this ads only push to buy plus, by it self is not a commercial ads that have a revenue. it's usual Google ads and it's pay you by click. so no click - no income! like other ads on the site. Like in all other sites on he web.
So the only way sokker gain money from this ads delay - is plus users! Actually new plus users.

Other possibility is to rent ads plays to companies that interested in football fans. For who football fans is a focus group. it's more stable income, but you need to work on this question.. find thous who is interested, prepare a price, you may divide it by countries, etc. It's not easiest and fastest way, but...

Plus income, what is the alternative? And that's something we can't know.

like say Poey
I think it is normal that PLUS users have some advantage against non PLUS users.
That is where we pay for, there has to be difference.
I think the difference is to small in this game so i think it is good to have some new rules.

Plus must be main income or at-least 40% of all income. But it must be something that users will be interested to pay for, not only to watch game without delay.
2013-09-24 10:24:30
I like the stats, i like arcade games, i like to see my trainings in notime, directly from this site, i like to see my matches with no delay so i will buy plus even i will lose my promo work.Sokker is not the same without plus.I think is'nt too high price now(after arcade implementation) atall to buy a 2 months plus.Is necessary for all who wanna make and test new tactics.
I dont agree with long delay time for NP users to watch their own matches, but financially i agree with a shorter delay, just to make difference between users who really care or not about this game and his future.

PS:Anybody have his proper oppinion(i respect all), this is mine, i dont wanna discuss about it, just i posted.
2013-09-24 10:36:06
is it your sudden amnesia?)))

LOL, using other people's words the wrong way, that's funny. You are hilarious ...........!

this ads only push to buy plus,

Ok, so we agree it's an ad to make more Plus money? Great.

But it must be something that users will be interested to pay for, not only to watch game without delay.

Must?

And apparently something needed to be done or else this match delay most probably was never implemented. I don't think these things are implemented because greg thinks we will like it ...
2013-09-24 10:44:08
You are hilarious ...........!
Teaching from you))

Ok, so we agree it's an ad to make more Plus money? Great.
More plus users, yes. But it may have sokker ads not google, like description of Plus features an prices.

And apparently something needed to be done or else this match delay most probably was never implemented. I don't think these things are implemented because greg thinks we will like it ...
for example? only paid game?
2013-09-24 11:18:55
lol, that discussion is absolutely useless now...two groups of people and still the same arguments in the last dozens of reactions to each other...

greg is doing sokker on his way and we can't do anything with that, that's sad true :/ I don't like waiting time before matches, So I don't buy plus anymore so I wait 5 minutes before each match and I'm quite about that more...I could buy plus again and skip that, but I don't want to support greg until he comes with something really good to save sokker :-)
2013-09-24 11:58:53
for me this thing with delay is like rising taxes in country in wich system doesn`t function to support that system. Main idea about paying is to bring new things for plus users and make the game more atracitive, not to take away things that were free to make people pay for them. Sokker started losing users while matches were without delay, and I didn`t pay for plus at least one year after starting sokker, in this case I would end it after few weeks.
2013-09-24 13:26:20
Guzh, charles mean is your post on this screenshoot below:



that "....." symbol mean the sentence in the middle of it. he do not write it from start to the end on your post.

2013-09-24 14:01:25
actually you don't watch the game online, few Kb is downloaded to your computer including viewer and flash data file. counting number of users, you don't need a server better than 3 years ago.

you don't need good server to WATCH the game, but you need a great server to make the simulation without server crashing [some years ago match days were tragic, everything working slow, site going down etc.].
2013-09-24 14:10:19
so we see the beginning of borkos phrase and the end of mine... weary clear.
2013-09-24 14:19:12
not great... if you do all the simulation at the same time, you need a "greate" server, if you divide them by groups, by time etc you don't need a supper powered server. if I do remember wright it was in time when number of users was 40K+, sokker grewed-up but not the "machinery". It was inevitable. Number of users decrease, so the number of teams in some countries and even leagues my be decrease.