Subject: let's show our opinion

not great... if you do all the simulation at the same time, you need a "greate" server, if you divide them by groups, by time etc you don't need a supper powered server. if I do remember wright it was in time when number of users was 40K+, sokker grewed-up but not the "machinery". It was inevitable. Number of users decrease, so the number of teams in some countries and even leagues my be decrease.

in my mind, it is not only simulation match on sokker here. there also transfer who are 23 hours open here. if the engine crush with slow server such as in the past, i am sure no body like it. i am sure we remember how many times sokker must close for maintanance because of server down out of the schedule.

when it was? it's not an issue anymore! and transfer depends on number of users, no users, no transfer!

More plus users, yes. But it may have sokker ads not google, like description of Plus features an prices.

Ah, then tell me, what are the advertisement rules?? Or should I ask, what are YOUR advertisment rules?? It need to be Google ads? Price and features need to be mentioned? I have never heard of these rules, but maybe you did .... please, enlighten me with your knowledge.

for example? only paid game?

Ask greg ...

so we see the beginning of borkos phrase and the end of mine... weary clear.

Oh dear, almost everyone on this forum understand the use of '.....' to shorten quoted text, but because you (the exception) don't know the use of '.....', then it doesn't make sense anymore.

Slower server was just an example how the question should have looked like. The right question is, do managers like the alternative better if Sokker incomes drop even more, instead of only asking for 'who like delay before game?'.

borkos007 could also have written for example: 'Do you prefer delay before matches or no live matches anymore?' or 'Do you prefer delay before matches or no Sokker at all?'. These are also possibilities with less Plus income, but we don't know for sure as only greg and maybe the other DEVs know the real consequences.

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i want to see an option,who say
''Im not plus and i dont pay until sokker became again the game i love when i came for the first time''
then,i vote too
I have wrote many times my opininion,no need to do it again
no random,no delay,i dont care about 3D,give us a realy good work to love it again
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Exactly.

Actually the most stupid people are the ones who think money gained from sokker is spend on sokker :) are you serious? I hardly believe a dime returns to development. Show me some proof then cause this happens very rarely comparing to opposite. We all know that and we all know that Greg is not living from sokker (I wish he would). People invest more money in business when profit is growing, not decreasing. You can clearly see that this thing is last step before death. It's like firing 50% of staff when company is near bankruptcy.

E: I'm even ashamed to suggest this game to my friends anymore. Owner is clear idiot and don't know anything about managing a business. But as I said this is not a business and he doesn't reinvest and clearly cares shit about this. It was fun for him at first but now it's dying so rapidly. Oh boy I wish he would sell it.
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You have proof of your accusations? Then show me that your are one who is right ...

well, i do not know money from sokker goes where and it is not my businiess to ask where is my money go. and this is not our right to interfere sokker money.

I know it's not our business that's why I can only wish he would sell this thing.
Charles come on look at sokker, look at developments and think for a second. One new crappy implement per 2 years? It's clear people responsible for that are bored of this (lost interest) and don't care anymore even about profits. Just wanted to squeeze every last penny possible from our pockets towards the inevitable end.

E: I don't actually want to enter the discussion. I just want to say that I support users who will stop paying plus and see what happens then. If we will see rebirth or this game will end faster and save much of our nerves(at least I get nervous cause I used to love this game a lot).
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I don't know the ammount of work that goes into programming, I'm not a programmer. And I know a lot has been changed, things in the program we don't see (read older news).

But yes, I also think more should have been done last couple of years, and if it's to much work for the group of DEVs, more people should have been hired (which costs more money!) to fix bugs and implement new features faster. Unfortunatly this hasn't been done so no use discussing this, we can't turn back time. We live today, not yesterday or last year ...

But what I do not know is how money is spend and how it is spend. I have absolutely no idea how much things cost running your own website and pay people to make it work as good as possible. And I have absolutely no idea how the balance of Sokker looks like, how much the profit and loss is. And you don't know either or else you would have shown it to us already I think.

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As far as I'm concerned all the maintenance not counting programming tops couple hundred euros per month. And sadly I don't see programming very often.

There is constant programming work from what I now, they even hire new people for programming work, so don't talk about things that you know nothing.

Couple of hundread euros is not much? Do you think that they get much more from plus each month? :)

it was counted that they get around 5000 euros per month only from plus :) yea programming costs a lot but I don't see the results :) is it so hard to change penalties scoring or corner taking or at least those stupid launching mistakes or shorter striker beating taller gk in high ball battle? ahhhhh... so many bugs.