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you demand something back for your spent money. (I demand something back for my spent money). actually you already got it.
what is from PLUS features you did not receive?
what is from PLUS features you did not receive?
He demands to know what greg does with that money and also that his paymant has to be invested in the game. And we're reading this crap in three topics now.
He demands to know what greg does with that money
he has no right to demand it
his paymant has to be invested in the game
it doesn't have to invested in the game
he has no right to demand it
his paymant has to be invested in the game
it doesn't have to invested in the game
Anyway, i cant believe i'm having this debate over shitty 20 euros per year. Some of you guys are paying more for soda in a weekend, but its kinda awkward to go to a bartender and tell him you're having a strike, better blow our brains here.
Exactly :) it's the price of a t-shirt...:)
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Stupid demands and even more stupid to ask for that anyway.
If i buy a car without airco i am not going to be angry that the seller won't give me that later on.
You pay for what you get and if you are not satisfied with that you don't pay.
Also stupid because 20 euros in a year is not a lot of money.
As told before to some people here, please leave the game if you are not satisfied instead of ruin your own time ( time is money) here.
I am sure these people love the game, otherwise they would have left this game for ages ;)
They simply like it to be negative, no other thing.
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Stupid demands and even more stupid to ask for that anyway.
If i buy a car without airco i am not going to be angry that the seller won't give me that later on.
You pay for what you get and if you are not satisfied with that you don't pay.
Also stupid because 20 euros in a year is not a lot of money.
As told before to some people here, please leave the game if you are not satisfied instead of ruin your own time ( time is money) here.
I am sure these people love the game, otherwise they would have left this game for ages ;)
They simply like it to be negative, no other thing.
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He demands to know what greg does with that money
he has no right to demand it
his paymant has to be invested in the game
it doesn't have to invested in the game
actualy Charly say that "if you really like the game, you play it and don't want to see ads-delay, you may support the game by paying Plus". Actually all this all this ads-delay is focused to make more Plus payment. Normally it's mean "investments"! You invest this money in the game, yes you get some "features" for that, but it's not so important. No-one hase transfer money in favor of Greg or Damian, or else, but in favor of Sokker.org. So everyone expects it is spend on "the game" not on buzz.
And it's ridiculous to compare a Plus price to the price of tee-shirt! compare it a middle-class salary per hour!
If you want, for Ukraine its not more then 1,5 EUR ,and I got high salary! So for res it must be about 1 Euro.
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he has no right to demand it
his paymant has to be invested in the game
it doesn't have to invested in the game
actualy Charly say that "if you really like the game, you play it and don't want to see ads-delay, you may support the game by paying Plus". Actually all this all this ads-delay is focused to make more Plus payment. Normally it's mean "investments"! You invest this money in the game, yes you get some "features" for that, but it's not so important. No-one hase transfer money in favor of Greg or Damian, or else, but in favor of Sokker.org. So everyone expects it is spend on "the game" not on buzz.
And it's ridiculous to compare a Plus price to the price of tee-shirt! compare it a middle-class salary per hour!
If you want, for Ukraine its not more then 1,5 EUR ,and I got high salary! So for res it must be about 1 Euro.
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I'm not the one trying to pursuade others to not pay for this game anymore, I'm not the one trying to ruin the fun for others or trying to make this game worse, I'm not the one crying over 25 euro's a year, so I'm also not the one who needs to be discussed. You and a few others are the problem childs of this game and refuse to leave, eventhough that would be best for everyone, for you guys and for us who stay behind and have fun with Sokker.
But you can try to put the focus on me, and some managers will fall for it, but most will understand who are the real problems. If you guys leave, I won't post in these topics anymore as I'm doing right now, but the other way around, if I leave and you guys stay, the shit, whining and lies will keep on coming!! So who is the problem???
And if you want to talk about who is a bitch ... most probably the loser trolls on this forum, like you, who are trying to compensate their useless and meaningless life in which they are the bitch of their wife, of their classmates, of their colleagues or some other place. But on the forums they can be the ones they aren't for real, save trolling behind their computers.
And your last 2 posts prove what for a person you really are .... First you admit you 'Doesn't matter which one but for me sokker improves or game dies' and don't want to waste time wondering and waiting for nothing. And next post you put on a completely different mask and start the bs again.
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But you can try to put the focus on me, and some managers will fall for it, but most will understand who are the real problems. If you guys leave, I won't post in these topics anymore as I'm doing right now, but the other way around, if I leave and you guys stay, the shit, whining and lies will keep on coming!! So who is the problem???
And if you want to talk about who is a bitch ... most probably the loser trolls on this forum, like you, who are trying to compensate their useless and meaningless life in which they are the bitch of their wife, of their classmates, of their colleagues or some other place. But on the forums they can be the ones they aren't for real, save trolling behind their computers.
And your last 2 posts prove what for a person you really are .... First you admit you 'Doesn't matter which one but for me sokker improves or game dies' and don't want to waste time wondering and waiting for nothing. And next post you put on a completely different mask and start the bs again.
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No-one hase transfer money in favor of Greg or Damian, or else, but in favor of Sokker.org
So when you buy a drink, a Coke or Pepsi, you pay Coca Cola and not the employees of this company? And you expect all that money is invested again and everyone works for free? If the answers are 'no', why is Sokker different then?
You pay for something, Plus, and you get something for it in return, Plus. What you get for your money is all explained on the Plus page.
And who knows how the Plus money is spend, do you? Have you seen the balance of Sokker? I never did so I can't say what part is used for new investements and what part is used to pay for labour.
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So when you buy a drink, a Coke or Pepsi, you pay Coca Cola and not the employees of this company? And you expect all that money is invested again and everyone works for free? If the answers are 'no', why is Sokker different then?
You pay for something, Plus, and you get something for it in return, Plus. What you get for your money is all explained on the Plus page.
And who knows how the Plus money is spend, do you? Have you seen the balance of Sokker? I never did so I can't say what part is used for new investements and what part is used to pay for labour.
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I see you lie trolling)) Your so funny! Like a clown with old jokes)))
Investmetn in sokker mean: developers, hardware base etc.
You invest in something in expectation of grow and development, not on "walking around".
And Plus - had not much interesting to be paid for! Team kit and bage? Important! See all the matches? Somehow I have lived without it. The only matches I'm interested in was NT, but now I watch only Ukrainian NT games. Training "features"? I cant call it "features"! Programs like SO is more useful! SO doesn't have somethind extraordinary and I think some features may be integrated in Plus, like a SO stile view of team. Wat does Plus has more? Wall? Useful! Werry!
In ast 5 years plus features hasn't change. So there was no investment for it's development? Hmmm...
The nearest popular online footbal manager HT had something more! That had understand that users love players that they have trained for a long time... The have folow their grow from youth team! (it was good implimention) ant at time whene they become old they not realy want to sell them... But what they can do? No Hall of Fame, no possibility to make him a coach... Actualy nothing! It's a litle plasure that may hold users (one of many). It's not hard to introduce, but...
Work on ME it's not so visible and always will be 50/50...
About Coca... Find your diploma and thin a litle....
Investmetn in sokker mean: developers, hardware base etc.
You invest in something in expectation of grow and development, not on "walking around".
And Plus - had not much interesting to be paid for! Team kit and bage? Important! See all the matches? Somehow I have lived without it. The only matches I'm interested in was NT, but now I watch only Ukrainian NT games. Training "features"? I cant call it "features"! Programs like SO is more useful! SO doesn't have somethind extraordinary and I think some features may be integrated in Plus, like a SO stile view of team. Wat does Plus has more? Wall? Useful! Werry!
In ast 5 years plus features hasn't change. So there was no investment for it's development? Hmmm...
The nearest popular online footbal manager HT had something more! That had understand that users love players that they have trained for a long time... The have folow their grow from youth team! (it was good implimention) ant at time whene they become old they not realy want to sell them... But what they can do? No Hall of Fame, no possibility to make him a coach... Actualy nothing! It's a litle plasure that may hold users (one of many). It's not hard to introduce, but...
Work on ME it's not so visible and always will be 50/50...
About Coca... Find your diploma and thin a litle....
fortunately (also for you) former "east block" wasn't like you. If yes, you will never be able to play this game... you are really sheep
did you at least realized that I am attacking only against delay? Did you realized that really lot of user do not like this and really lots of user will stop to pay plus (not because of me, but because thay have some "friends" in community without plus) because of delay? And only one what you are doing is telling to your opponents to leave. You are really very clever. Who told you that we don't like this game? If I would not like it, I would not be here over 5 years, I would not be still in CZ national cup, I would not have rating bigger than you. I would just spent time with arguing with arogant and selfish people like you who likes only themselves. I will argue about everything - not enough good ME (I don't mind it and everyone can prepare tactic to win against (almost) everyone), too low players, too high players, too fat, too slim... You just want to see this.
And you are coward chicken as you are using your vulgarism - in real you aould not be brave enough to tell me this to eyes. With using of your "net coverage" you are brave, in reality I would already hit you...
so hope, pray for your god, you are just very small man and you are not able to change anything in your life (only posts here as here is edit possibility)
did you at least realized that I am attacking only against delay? Did you realized that really lot of user do not like this and really lots of user will stop to pay plus (not because of me, but because thay have some "friends" in community without plus) because of delay? And only one what you are doing is telling to your opponents to leave. You are really very clever. Who told you that we don't like this game? If I would not like it, I would not be here over 5 years, I would not be still in CZ national cup, I would not have rating bigger than you. I would just spent time with arguing with arogant and selfish people like you who likes only themselves. I will argue about everything - not enough good ME (I don't mind it and everyone can prepare tactic to win against (almost) everyone), too low players, too high players, too fat, too slim... You just want to see this.
And you are coward chicken as you are using your vulgarism - in real you aould not be brave enough to tell me this to eyes. With using of your "net coverage" you are brave, in reality I would already hit you...
so hope, pray for your god, you are just very small man and you are not able to change anything in your life (only posts here as here is edit possibility)
you want sokker take all SO work? sokker can do it. but after that, SO will be useless.
you can see HT has plenty of CHPP. why no one protest in HT that HT should have features like HO and HT -world?
you asking for more PLUS features is the same like you are a sokker owner. you are still on dreaming here.
please wake up, we all are user. user who play the game with the features the game provide for you.
if you want another features to be added for your comfortable, go to the BUGS/IDEA forum (en). Write your IDEA on that forum. if you have more than one idea, make one topic for each of your idea. but it will be better to search first if somebody already post similiar idea there in the past.
you can see HT has plenty of CHPP. why no one protest in HT that HT should have features like HO and HT -world?
you asking for more PLUS features is the same like you are a sokker owner. you are still on dreaming here.
please wake up, we all are user. user who play the game with the features the game provide for you.
if you want another features to be added for your comfortable, go to the BUGS/IDEA forum (en). Write your IDEA on that forum. if you have more than one idea, make one topic for each of your idea. but it will be better to search first if somebody already post similiar idea there in the past.
sorry, you are out - let's come here, only here you can have this for free
now you like it, so - pay for it
more close to drug dealer close to shool and not car dealers...
now you like it, so - pay for it
more close to drug dealer close to shool and not car dealers...
let's offer this to bluezero - payed account for sokker.cz for NED managers as there are also statistics for NED - how do you like it?
You see, that's what I say, a miserable person trolling save behind his computer! And I noticed this already, but your are also a parrot, repeating after me ....
No, you're not only attacking the delay, you are trying to get more people pissed of something you don't like. And posting negative shit on the forums to make more people pissed doesn't help in any way! If you really cared, you would help and try to make things better, but you don't do that. Trying to ruin something and call that helping / making things better is ridiculous. 99.99% of the times ruin something and helping / making things better are not synonyms, in this case even 100%.
And maybe you liked this game in the past, you probably did, but what you are trying to achieve right now has nothing to do with liking this game anymore. So don't fool yourself what you are doing is called helping, it isn't!
No, you're not only attacking the delay, you are trying to get more people pissed of something you don't like. And posting negative shit on the forums to make more people pissed doesn't help in any way! If you really cared, you would help and try to make things better, but you don't do that. Trying to ruin something and call that helping / making things better is ridiculous. 99.99% of the times ruin something and helping / making things better are not synonyms, in this case even 100%.
And maybe you liked this game in the past, you probably did, but what you are trying to achieve right now has nothing to do with liking this game anymore. So don't fool yourself what you are doing is called helping, it isn't!
start with real arguments, please:
how could I help to improve?
where could I put my ideas and where can I see if (and how) they will be solved?
how can I show my opinion?
3 simple qustion, but very hard to answer - or not?
as I told, I was trying to advice some improvements, noone is caring. Lots of users in CZ community offer good improvements (for example to make CZ leagues more interesting for both current and new users) - noone is caring.
but you are also just arrogant as the most of staff, you just want that someone will tell thank you very much, you are the greatest person and only because of you sokker is alive. No, also because of you sokker is dyeing. You are just attacking everyone who want to do something, because you "made everything possible to prepare it the best for all of us".
how could I help to improve?
where could I put my ideas and where can I see if (and how) they will be solved?
how can I show my opinion?
3 simple qustion, but very hard to answer - or not?
as I told, I was trying to advice some improvements, noone is caring. Lots of users in CZ community offer good improvements (for example to make CZ leagues more interesting for both current and new users) - noone is caring.
but you are also just arrogant as the most of staff, you just want that someone will tell thank you very much, you are the greatest person and only because of you sokker is alive. No, also because of you sokker is dyeing. You are just attacking everyone who want to do something, because you "made everything possible to prepare it the best for all of us".