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Subject: Campaign, let sokker grow
I wonder what pleasure you get from being a pessimist in a topic with finally some positive news and positive managers who are willing to do something for Sokker?
And what reliable data you get from checking a page from time to time? I asked the DEVs for the actual data, unfortunately I didn't get an answer.
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And what reliable data you get from checking a page from time to time? I asked the DEVs for the actual data, unfortunately I didn't get an answer.
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When we had last timne around 50k users, there were roughly 3-4k Users online on matchdays. 4-6k Users when we had our peak.
So check on matchdays next time, I am sure we wil not rech the 3k, maybe ot even 2k.
There used to be even a site which monitored Sk loggintimes, but I forgot , dot know if it stil exists.
So check on matchdays next time, I am sure we wil not rech the 3k, maybe ot even 2k.
There used to be even a site which monitored Sk loggintimes, but I forgot , dot know if it stil exists.
I created a Hattrick account and personally wrote to around 250 users manually, after that we got around 5 new users from there who wrote back to me, they don't write in the forums but they have registered. They will start to write if they like the game and get hooked, lets hope.
But there is some new managers activity around, we shouldn't expect that everyone stays, maybe 5% stay at the end but its something anyway.
We can bring them in, and teach them, but the game has to do its job to keep them.
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But there is some new managers activity around, we shouldn't expect that everyone stays, maybe 5% stay at the end but its something anyway.
We can bring them in, and teach them, but the game has to do its job to keep them.
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Yep :)
And let's hope those new users stay and will tell others about Sokker.
And let's hope those new users stay and will tell others about Sokker.
I am discussing with the hattrick business owners about the fact that the two games could help each other grow as users could easily play both games....and that we are not competing each other...please stop sending any messages for the time being as we could reach an agreement that could help us promote the game officially.
What I am trying to reach at is that we could try to send our users to try their game and maybe display some advertising banners with hattrick on our website if they would do the same...the main disagreement is the fact that they have a lot more users then we currently do (they have over 300k at the moment and had over 1 mill just 3 years ago)...so they are dropping around 300 users each day...we counter balance that by the fact that we are on a high...growing users by a few hundred each day...so this is our point of negotiation (I am trying to get the most of our recent user grow that being the only thing we have to negotiate with)...lets hope I reach some kind of agreement because I think we could benefit a lot from it!
Please do not try to contact or open alternative discussions as it would not benefit us!
I will post on the staff forum updates and all the message history so that we can analyze and take decisions together...so if you are staff you will soon find it there!
I will do the same with other games as I think bringing users form similar games to sokker has an improved rate of people sticking to the game!
Fingers crossed,
Qstarw
What I am trying to reach at is that we could try to send our users to try their game and maybe display some advertising banners with hattrick on our website if they would do the same...the main disagreement is the fact that they have a lot more users then we currently do (they have over 300k at the moment and had over 1 mill just 3 years ago)...so they are dropping around 300 users each day...we counter balance that by the fact that we are on a high...growing users by a few hundred each day...so this is our point of negotiation (I am trying to get the most of our recent user grow that being the only thing we have to negotiate with)...lets hope I reach some kind of agreement because I think we could benefit a lot from it!
Please do not try to contact or open alternative discussions as it would not benefit us!
I will post on the staff forum updates and all the message history so that we can analyze and take decisions together...so if you are staff you will soon find it there!
I will do the same with other games as I think bringing users form similar games to sokker has an improved rate of people sticking to the game!
Fingers crossed,
Qstarw
I received authorization to promote sokker on the Trophy Manager off topic forums...so we should have some users come from there pretty soon!
Note: 1000-4000 new users register to play every day. Over 200k active managers.
Note: 1000-4000 new users register to play every day. Over 200k active managers.
That's 1% more as the day before ;) And that 1% can bring more new managers and those can bring ... etc. Just as how Sokker once grew to over 70K users.
It would be perfect ;)
Low % of staying users may seem like a wasted opportunity, but it's misleading to think that this game, or any game, can achieve a very high retention rate: it is simply much easier to register than to play :P
Of course, anything we can do to increase that % is welcome (I remember a discussion in this forum with formulae and everything :P).
But, in our current situation, it really really makes a big difference if we get
- incoming users > 0
- % staying > 0%
Not only for growth, but even for survival, because there is no way everyone here will continue to play forever :P
Retention is important because we cannot keep bringing users at the same rate forever (otherwise Madoff wouldn't be in jail :P), but the most important thing is to get positive net inflows of users - and 1% may actually be a big number in this context (in the sense of being far enough from 0) ;)
Low % of staying users may seem like a wasted opportunity, but it's misleading to think that this game, or any game, can achieve a very high retention rate: it is simply much easier to register than to play :P
Of course, anything we can do to increase that % is welcome (I remember a discussion in this forum with formulae and everything :P).
But, in our current situation, it really really makes a big difference if we get
- incoming users > 0
- % staying > 0%
Not only for growth, but even for survival, because there is no way everyone here will continue to play forever :P
Retention is important because we cannot keep bringing users at the same rate forever (otherwise Madoff wouldn't be in jail :P), but the most important thing is to get positive net inflows of users - and 1% may actually be a big number in this context (in the sense of being far enough from 0) ;)
It seems that you are right;)
btw..more users come to sokker at the moment.
btw..more users come to sokker at the moment.
I just did the messaging one round, don't have time to do more. And my Hattrick account is already gone so don't worry im not going to contact anyone.