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Subject: U21 World Cup XIV Guide
Im sure its not the first some one think of it but he is the first one did it on world cup i think . If you guys do not understand how bad is this for the game than bad for you.
Dont't worry, he is not encouraging it. That is just a misunderstanding. ;)
In my opinion using low-quality pitch is like tactical fouls in football. What do you think about them?
If I use this comparison, Woody or general claim that they dislike tactical fouls and that this foul has not helped mison to reach the draw. On the other hand ostulc claims, that even though he dislikes tactical fouls as well, he understands why mison did it, because it really helped him not to lose the match. Defending the decision from the point of tactics is not the same as defending it from the point of fair-play. Even when Behmen did the same against Poland last season (and he lost the match), Tsolias called his strategy "genious" and then told him that it is neither right from the fair-play point of view nor smart in the long-term (see original post here). You see the difference?
Main message written in bold. :)
In my opinion using low-quality pitch is like tactical fouls in football. What do you think about them?
If I use this comparison, Woody or general claim that they dislike tactical fouls and that this foul has not helped mison to reach the draw. On the other hand ostulc claims, that even though he dislikes tactical fouls as well, he understands why mison did it, because it really helped him not to lose the match. Defending the decision from the point of tactics is not the same as defending it from the point of fair-play. Even when Behmen did the same against Poland last season (and he lost the match), Tsolias called his strategy "genious" and then told him that it is neither right from the fair-play point of view nor smart in the long-term (see original post here). You see the difference?
Main message written in bold. :)
i never known about this @behmen games before i would react the same way as now despite the result...
i also do not like direct qualifications like bad tactician in game full with random actually who is good :)
apology to @ostulc if i interpreted his words wrongly. Nothing is against the rules in this case but my personal opinion this is not fair play and ruins the fun of others :(. Of course we have to explain our position without direct abuses and qualifications .
i also do not like direct qualifications like bad tactician in game full with random actually who is good :)
apology to @ostulc if i interpreted his words wrongly. Nothing is against the rules in this case but my personal opinion this is not fair play and ruins the fun of others :(. Of course we have to explain our position without direct abuses and qualifications .
i can understand pro and contra about the pitch choose.
i support mision act for indonesia. when its part of tactic, of course choose worse pitch to play are bad idea for player safety. for team who surely win, that is very annoying.
but in other view, its a choose he must do for team who already 99% surely lose. as managers from weak team, mision gave us a bold note: NEVER GIVE UP even you are weak and surely lose. there are many ways to ROMA. Mision prove he can use the 1% benefit to take points for Indonesia. and mision chose the stadium that the manager is the big fans of A.S. ROMA that already not active anymore.
Clever, risky, controversial, and success gambling.
;)
i support mision act for indonesia. when its part of tactic, of course choose worse pitch to play are bad idea for player safety. for team who surely win, that is very annoying.
but in other view, its a choose he must do for team who already 99% surely lose. as managers from weak team, mision gave us a bold note: NEVER GIVE UP even you are weak and surely lose. there are many ways to ROMA. Mision prove he can use the 1% benefit to take points for Indonesia. and mision chose the stadium that the manager is the big fans of A.S. ROMA that already not active anymore.
Clever, risky, controversial, and success gambling.
;)
I don't even care about the result, looking at the stats we probably didn't do enough to win. It's just a d*ck move towards all managers who own/train NT players. There are already quite a few managers who are reluctant to provide skills of their players. If my player would get injured in such a match, I'd be fuming. Even more so when our coach chose the venue.
I appreciate the stadium choice option in the qualifiers, even used it myself quite a lot. But it shouldn't be possible at World Cups, because home advantage isn't fairly distributed anymore.
I appreciate the stadium choice option in the qualifiers, even used it myself quite a lot. But it shouldn't be possible at World Cups, because home advantage isn't fairly distributed anymore.
I appreciate the stadium choice option in the qualifiers
You have double standards???:)))
You have double standards???:)))
Yes, I understand with idea, that on World Cup is stupid, that one team is at home and this team can change stadium. But it is not my mistake. I didn't make sokker. I only chose best way for my team. For Indonesia is WC maximum, now. Indonesia play on WC once in many years.
PS: For me match was funny, because i saw, that I made good work. It is all.
Show must go on... :D
I never use bad pitch in friendly match, qualification, mini-world cup... But this is World Cup!!! More important matches dont exist. ;)
Maybe I am sokker Lord Voldemort, but i only do my work.
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PS: For me match was funny, because i saw, that I made good work. It is all.
Show must go on... :D
I never use bad pitch in friendly match, qualification, mini-world cup... But this is World Cup!!! More important matches dont exist. ;)
Maybe I am sokker Lord Voldemort, but i only do my work.
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If I could, I would make a meme about me deleting a meme! ;)
he was not the first, G11 make the same in a quarterfinal match against România in a 2 editions ago...
Hello people, I feel disappointed about seeing that we continue with the same thng.
What do we want? Do we want Mison to be stoned, hanged or burned? Do we want to see blood??? Shall we kill him? Does it make the situation better?
I just talked about my own feelings about a fact, by seeing him choosing such a stadium. Perhaps I also overreacted a little and that´s why I now feel guilty, but I didn´t judged.
I made some questions and he answered and told how important is the 1 point for the indonesian community and I really appreciate him for giving such an straightforward answer.
Can´t you see the difference between speaking about the own feelings, on the one side, and judging and putting labels, on the other side? Do you real feel better after having judged?
How about focusing on things that make fun and change the own feelings and emotions...
Men, it´s a worldcup, this should be the party of all U21-related managers and not a trial!
What do we want? Do we want Mison to be stoned, hanged or burned? Do we want to see blood??? Shall we kill him? Does it make the situation better?
I just talked about my own feelings about a fact, by seeing him choosing such a stadium. Perhaps I also overreacted a little and that´s why I now feel guilty, but I didn´t judged.
I made some questions and he answered and told how important is the 1 point for the indonesian community and I really appreciate him for giving such an straightforward answer.
Can´t you see the difference between speaking about the own feelings, on the one side, and judging and putting labels, on the other side? Do you real feel better after having judged?
How about focusing on things that make fun and change the own feelings and emotions...
Men, it´s a worldcup, this should be the party of all U21-related managers and not a trial!
I talked to people stop to talk about that... but... you know... people likes chaos.
LOL :D
How about telling them where to focus, instead of what to avoid?
You know, telling someone not to do something is like telling to somebody "do not touch this bottle of whiskey". 100% he will taste it... :)))
You think you do something to stop a situation, but the one who feeds the monster is you!
(not you personally, but who knows? Maybe... ha HA HAAA LOL)
How about telling them where to focus, instead of what to avoid?
You know, telling someone not to do something is like telling to somebody "do not touch this bottle of whiskey". 100% he will taste it... :)))
You think you do something to stop a situation, but the one who feeds the monster is you!
(not you personally, but who knows? Maybe... ha HA HAAA LOL)
