Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

maybe

it's an idea I just came up with while reading posts here

I always write from my point of view and I am not in any internal community but couldn't they just build new internal communities, with different managers?

That would kill NTs... bad idea :P

I would be the first that quits if that happens
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You can't make football popular in all countries of the world. FIFA is struggling since decades to make football popular in some countries, like the USA. If some countries are struggling with users than it's the football culture in that country which is causing that. The users themselves should creat means to attract more people, from telling their friends about sokker.org to creating Facebook groups etc...
Best I could think of is the possibility of users in countries like this to join other leagues while keeping their national status . So a user from Nepal (just an example) could join the Romanian leagues while still being a part of the Nepalese community, getting youth players with Nepalese nationality, being
able to vote for Nepal etc....
They should even be able to change leagues and countries at the end of each season ( if free space available, replacing bot or banned team, but in the lower leagues of course!).
Ciao!
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Wow this is the worst idea which i saw on sokker so far

It's ok for me. I am not saying that it is great idea but at least it would let teams in small countries play competitively.
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I think, without the community as it is now, this game would have died 10 years ago...
The international forum is a portal for all managers to chat with each other, but the national forums are what keeps this game turned on!
Off course, without the football, tactics, youthplayers and transfer market, there would be nothing left, but most managers keep coming back for the long, virtual, no strings attached, friendships.

More logical idea is to create normal Champions league with a regular game every week with group games and playoffs.
This would save internal communities and would give the strong teams from small countries competetiveness.
It would be possible to do:
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE II (or other name)
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE III (or other name)

and something like this, so lets say 5-10 from one country teams compete in those international championships. And you could go up and down the leagues by how good you perform in it. This would be a game changer! I was pretty dissapointed when we got an info of 2 games per week in our own league and no international league, but what can you do. Anyway, i would strongly disagree of merging small country leagues and i would be very very in favour of this kind of international league

Question at kryminator about tickets prices :

As you talk about equality between countries, you should already restore some justice in the price of stadium tickets.

Why is it that after more than 6 months, the decimals of the ticket prices have not been restored in the countries where the currency is in euro?

In Poland with the Złoty for example, clubs can modulate the ticket prices with the decimals. This creates a distortion of treatment between countries. An euro by euro increase may be too high to manage the assistance.

Thank you for your answer.





(Question à Kriminator au sujet du prix des billets,

Puisque vous parlez d'égalité entre les pays, vous devriez déjà rétablir un peu plus d'équité concernant le prix des tickets du stade.
Comment se fait-il qu'après plus de 6 mois, les décimales du prix des tickets ne sont pas réapparues dans les pays qui utilisent la monnaie euro ?

En Pologne avec le Zloty par exemple, les clubs Polonais peuvent moduler le prix des tickets avec les décimales. Cela créé une distorsion de traitement entre les pays. Une augmentation euro par euro peut s'avérer trop forte et ingérable par rapport à la maîtrise de l'affluence)
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While more international competition would be nice, that would help only a team or 2 from small countries and would further seperate such teams from others.
And wouldnt solve the issue of having (mostly) 2 useless games a week against noticeably weaker competition.
That is why I would propose an opt in (on teams level) merged league - those who would want to participate in it - could leave their current league to join that at the bottom level.

The bug about it was reported about 13 months ago. I cannot do anything more than report it to real devs.

Thanks for your help !

More logical idea is to create normal Champions league with a regular game every week with group games and playoffs.
This would save internal communities and would give the strong teams from small countries competetiveness.
It would be possible to do:
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE II (or other name)
CHAMPIONS LEAGUE III (or other name)

and something like this, so lets say 5-10 from one country teams compete in those international championships. And you could go up and down the leagues by how good you perform in it. This would be a game changer!

1. it would change the game for a couple of teams in a country, so...not much of a change
2. there's a fixed number of weeks in a season, good luck trying to fit in a group + knockouts with so many teams
3. since group stage is rather impossible, for most teams it would mean a new competition where they would play 1-2 games and then finito, so just another competition for top teams, hooray
4. you can't make it a league style promotion/demotion season by season because that would mean that there would be fixed teams from each country from 1st season of competition...then how would you bring new teams?

In order to developp the game, there is perhaps a less radical solution.

I agree that the main problem is keeping teams that are starting out in the game. Why? Because most of them get discouraged because they don't see a quick progression.

Instead of playing bots, we could imagine a mutualized international(s) league(s) or continental leagues for beginners or for those who are below a certain level. It would certainly be more exciting to play against real opponents. The level of this learning league would give a real sporting challenge with more important incomes to strengthen these young teams. Then, these teams would be reintegrated into their national leagues.

This is an intermediate solution that maintains the national leagues to which the persevering "old" players remain attached.
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Borkos, about #2:
"2. there's a fixed number of weeks in a season, good luck trying to fit in a group + knockouts with so many teams"

This is similar to the most voted (?) plan of the devs.
(option 2 on dev.diary 7)
The plan was to introduce international league/cups enduring the whole season (?)

There would be only 1 league match (e.g. Sunday), one international match (Wed) and cup/friendly (on Fridays).

The plan was rejectd and perhaps it is better so, because many people can't handle many changes.
However, this is something, that still could be introduced in the next seasons, by a minimal change, the change of the league mode to the latin america mode. On Latin America, e.g. on Brazil, tems play only one round in the season - so instead of 2 league matches per week, in 11 weeks (current system), the change to 1 league match per week in 11 weeks, would create space for an international competition. :)

Why I put the smiley near the word "international competition"?
I love the idea to play in ths same competition with friends I made here in sokkerworld, frieds from different countries. That#s my reason.
And also worthy to mention, some people who come from very small communities would have the cahance to play agains real humans istead of playing so many matches against bot, e.g. in a country with just 2-3 users.



I assume that for all users of these countries, an international competition would be the best addition in sokker, since they started loving this game. :)

It depends on the form

I was assuming that would be one international cup, as I understand You're writing about many different international cups?

If so, yes, quite possible, but:

6 weeks groups stage means 4 teams/group with rematches or 6 teams in group without rematches (but that would make it 5 weeks)

+playoff week

=7 weeks covered, 6 left (schedule meant starting in week 2)

6 weeks in cup mode = final, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8/, 1/16, 1/32

so 64 teams MAX going out of groups, assuming #1 qualifiers = 64 groups x 4 teams = 256 teams

with 98 countries it would be a around 2 teams for country

so basically champions cup with group stage

also boring due to level differences, some teams playing for 50-60, some for 80+
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if the plan would be to make many international cups, +/- adjusted to the team level then yeah, that would definitely be fun

but with current schedule that would also mean 4 official games/week - 2 league, int cup, national cup

so not really doable due to shortness of squads, would also mean playing basically more often than every other day, which I don't think would be good...perhaps as an ARCADE type of game, ignoring injuries/cards/training....then yeah, but that won't happen