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That's the perfect example here, you gain 250K while being in 3rd tier league whereas, i am getteing 78K by sitting in the 3rd tier league in Estonia
that's an example for what?
with your team you would sit in the lowest Polish league, 6th tier
do you expect teams to gain same amount from sponsors in 2nd league Kenya and 2nd league Poland/Romania/Turkey? it would be ridiculous
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that's an example for what?
with your team you would sit in the lowest Polish league, 6th tier
do you expect teams to gain same amount from sponsors in 2nd league Kenya and 2nd league Poland/Romania/Turkey? it would be ridiculous
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because it's based on team level
better teams = better league = better sponsor money
doesn't matter if it's 1/2/3 or 4 tier
it's not perfect, far from it, but it's at least a bit logical
better teams = better league = better sponsor money
doesn't matter if it's 1/2/3 or 4 tier
it's not perfect, far from it, but it's at least a bit logical
That's the perfect example here, you gain 250K while being in 3rd tier league whereas, i am getteing 78K by sitting in the 3rd tier league in Estonia
Do you really want to compare your 3rd division to Polish 3rd division?
Your 3rd tier league in Estonia has worse level than average 6th tier Polish league. You would only get 50-60k from sponsors with so many bots in Polish 6th division (that's how it was before the reform when we usually had there 2-3 normal teams + 5-6 bots). Last season I had strong 6th division league (five teams playing with 45-50 ratings, avg marks ~32, compared to your league ~25) and I had 78.5k - 85k from sponsors (after winning all 22 games).
Life of low level teams in Poland is NOT easier than life of low level teams in countries where you have ~50-100 users.
Do you really want to compare your 3rd division to Polish 3rd division?
Your 3rd tier league in Estonia has worse level than average 6th tier Polish league. You would only get 50-60k from sponsors with so many bots in Polish 6th division (that's how it was before the reform when we usually had there 2-3 normal teams + 5-6 bots). Last season I had strong 6th division league (five teams playing with 45-50 ratings, avg marks ~32, compared to your league ~25) and I had 78.5k - 85k from sponsors (after winning all 22 games).
Life of low level teams in Poland is NOT easier than life of low level teams in countries where you have ~50-100 users.
Again i personally wouldn't be against playing 6th tier against human owned teams. Income from tickets will compensate it easy.
Not saying anything about league strenghts, but how do you expect to have same competitivity from a small country team vs Poland for example?
That's what i am trying to say. If Estonian 3rd league was full of human teams, sponsorship income + tickets income would be way greater than it currently is. If there was a merge, indeed, there will be many Polish teams in topper tier leagues, but within a couple of season that might change later on to give everybody the same possibilities.
And again the examples of income you gave just above is sad to watch as in smaller countries you will never have a chance to compete at high level or havin fun in 3rd tier league.
In the end something has to be done. Either Marketing by game owners and nobody will complain.
OR
Merge all teams, nations will remain, national cup will remain and CC as well. But league system would be much more attractive.
Not saying anything about league strenghts, but how do you expect to have same competitivity from a small country team vs Poland for example?
That's what i am trying to say. If Estonian 3rd league was full of human teams, sponsorship income + tickets income would be way greater than it currently is. If there was a merge, indeed, there will be many Polish teams in topper tier leagues, but within a couple of season that might change later on to give everybody the same possibilities.
And again the examples of income you gave just above is sad to watch as in smaller countries you will never have a chance to compete at high level or havin fun in 3rd tier league.
In the end something has to be done. Either Marketing by game owners and nobody will complain.
OR
Merge all teams, nations will remain, national cup will remain and CC as well. But league system would be much more attractive.
And again the examples of income you gave just above is sad to watch as in smaller countries you will never have a chance to compete at high level or havin fun in 3rd tier league.
it works both ways
same way in Poland 99% of users won't have fun of playing in 1st/2nd league or higher rounds of cup because the level of competition is too high for them, so they will just stay in 4th league, sometimes reaching 3rd just to go down
That's what i am trying to say. If Estonian 3rd league was full of human teams, sponsorship income + tickets income would be way greater than it currently is.
but that has nothing to do with Your situation and Your example
if Eesti was full of human teams etc. then it would have more then 3 leagues and you would still play in the lower leagues getting less money
game needs more users, that is obvious from years, that's what they're planning to achieve
makes no sense talking about it, either they achieve it and then hurray or they don't
there's a big competition coming though at the end of the year, new version of Football Strategy, which seems to be much more professionally managed and judging by sokker's progress it will still need at least 2+ years before it's at least a bit 'ready'
so yeah, I don't think the numbers will explode...
it works both ways
same way in Poland 99% of users won't have fun of playing in 1st/2nd league or higher rounds of cup because the level of competition is too high for them, so they will just stay in 4th league, sometimes reaching 3rd just to go down
That's what i am trying to say. If Estonian 3rd league was full of human teams, sponsorship income + tickets income would be way greater than it currently is.
but that has nothing to do with Your situation and Your example
if Eesti was full of human teams etc. then it would have more then 3 leagues and you would still play in the lower leagues getting less money
game needs more users, that is obvious from years, that's what they're planning to achieve
makes no sense talking about it, either they achieve it and then hurray or they don't
there's a big competition coming though at the end of the year, new version of Football Strategy, which seems to be much more professionally managed and judging by sokker's progress it will still need at least 2+ years before it's at least a bit 'ready'
so yeah, I don't think the numbers will explode...
Btw. it's not true that you can't reach a high level in a small country, you just have to understand the game and have time, in smaller countries it's actually even easier due to reasons such as very easy training of young players in official games and lower level of competition (no need for top players and team around 70 marks at early stages like in Poland)
you even have a good example in your country, Vilpu who has a team playing for 75+
same with Jezo from Slovensko etc.
1/8 of Champions Cup - 2 teams from Bosnia, 1 from Slovensko, Eesti, Pilipinas, Greece etc.
Zelenilo from Bosnia played for 80+
So the system is not a problem, the only problem is small countries:
a. don't have numbers (users)
b. don't have enough good users
c. don't have enough really active users
that's why the level is so low
you even have a good example in your country, Vilpu who has a team playing for 75+
same with Jezo from Slovensko etc.
1/8 of Champions Cup - 2 teams from Bosnia, 1 from Slovensko, Eesti, Pilipinas, Greece etc.
Zelenilo from Bosnia played for 80+
So the system is not a problem, the only problem is small countries:
a. don't have numbers (users)
b. don't have enough good users
c. don't have enough really active users
that's why the level is so low
"it's not true that you can't reach a high level in a small country"
I remember a guy from Luxemburg winning CC before some seasons... Luxemburg, with just 2 or 3 users!!!
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"...with merging all together, it will actually boost up the game probably. "
Yes, international leagus will be a great addition, especially for people from small countries.
I remember a guy from Luxemburg winning CC before some seasons... Luxemburg, with just 2 or 3 users!!!
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"...with merging all together, it will actually boost up the game probably. "
Yes, international leagus will be a great addition, especially for people from small countries.
everyone is talking about merging that makes sense for nations with 2 levels
but what about a crazy idea of destructing huge countries on equal 4 levels :) and give them something like a playoff championship at the end :)
but what about a crazy idea of destructing huge countries on equal 4 levels :) and give them something like a playoff championship at the end :)
same way in Poland 99% of users won't have fun of playing in 1st/2nd league or higher rounds of cup because the level of competition is too high for them, so they will just stay in 4th league, sometimes reaching 3rd just to go down
This sounds like fckn hattrick
This sounds like fckn hattrick
Any news about the training reform?
Big changes are coming!
Big changes are coming!
This sounds like fckn hattrick
welcome to our world, when you need 70+ mark to fight for promotion to 2nd league :F
welcome to our world, when you need 70+ mark to fight for promotion to 2nd league :F
Training what ? Reform ?
Never heard about that, are you sure about what you are saying ?
Never heard about that, are you sure about what you are saying ?