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Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

2025-07-23 21:33:13
Well you could.... but to give shit about fans and attendance and dont lose a dime on old players while is probably more effective... to me surfing at mid or bottom of top league with losing on players you dont train or having many you just maintain value on (21 to 26 yo trainees) doesnt make more sense if I could do it faster with only u21 team in low league. More realistic compared to real life yes, how it should be more efficient, but not how it is....and once again to Come to My conclusion, training vs competite balance is too much leaned to all profit being in training, while they should try make it more even or/and mix of making training more easy to do efficient while competing.

The fact that many choose training over result clearly shows its wrong programmed.
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2025-07-23 21:44:36
yeah probably you are right... but there are some teams that manage to compete and train for years, maybe not winning cc´s but winning a lot of leagues or fighting for them, at least in Argentina there are 4 or 5 of those...
2025-07-23 21:53:24
Yeah, you're right. (19:00 post).

Borkos: Main difference between now and 2 years ago is before, there used to be just two teams, Atlantic and Vegas. everyone else was in the 58-63 range. Now, however...most teams are 65+ when playing full teams, and quite a few hit 68+. This wasn't even the case, even last season.

But ultimately Adaca's right. Once your kids get beat out of the Cup, you're basically forced to choose optimal training (95%+) or results and inferior training (85%).
2025-07-23 22:23:12
reply to future adaca (25-07-2025 21:70 post)

agree on that
2025-07-23 22:29:16
Economy is worst than before

Before you could train a player until 26 yo and make goood money. Be or at least use that player in order to be competitive
nowdays training beyond 23 yo is not the optimal for you economy. This is the vision of be competitive for couple of seasons and then go farming

also they have downgraded all players. For me it is great a game without 5x divines or similar. But they downgraded all players, not only the irreal ones.
2025-07-23 22:37:25
Adaca is talking about a different thing, Im talking about creating one generation to win titles, easy to do starting with ten 16yos. At age 22+ they will already be at similar level to your older players, then with every season it’s easier to use them, at 25 they will already be easily your first teamers and you will get around 8 strong seasons out of them.

Problem is most people don’t invest in youngsters and overpay for 20+ players / pay millions for average 25-28yo players. This way the peak is much worse than after investing into youths.

What adaca is talking about (I think) is keeping a high level team for many seasons while training next generation etc. Quite a different thing, demanding higher starting budget and dependent on country.
2025-07-24 21:03:44
Right on.
2025-07-24 21:33:47
well yes, but also that a lot more countries then just 5 best ones, it isnt just like that to win titles like you say...

in england and denmark, neither of which are considered top 25 nations.... players like wdp74 and me would kick your ass.... jezo, spin and others are example of players in small countries you cant just get past like that in small countries.... and many top 25 nations have bigger competition then i think you estitame... many leagues you cant use average mark to conclude the full picture, cause many train youngsters in some matches and that lowers rating..... but yes, you cant play like that in polska 2. division..... so some of your picture is true

but in both small countries and big.... i would advice new managers or managers with total club value less then 40-50 m eu (players value on TL + cash) to do some seasons of gathering resources first, before they try build a team..... in length it would make them much stronger