Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

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We are laughing to situation.Why are you suddenly so offensive?
If I were going to cry about it, I wouldn't have kept the academy running for 15 years.
Don't be so rude and passive-aggressive, even in the game.

Message wasn't specifically for you, sorry, but for the usual suspects thaty complain about it every week.

You got bad juniors? just fire them. No need to come here to tell us about it in a thread about sokker news.

+1

I just shared mines for fun :D Because I no longer feel any pain about academy. I am hopefully waiting for good young players to arrive.There's nothing else we can do.

And stop posting offensive messages that has nothing to do with:

a) the topic
b) the people on the forum

...Because you feel like offending people for being annoyed about certain issues they have within the game.

Same goes for adaca who always like to jump on these things as well, without actually bringing something useful to the forum with it.

Dude, i actually meant that +1, complaining about juniors is getting tiring, we all know the devs are time limited and they just brought us IC. We should focus bringing ideas for the fully implement. And besides that, we all know that junior school is high on the list of to-do for the devs, showing random bad entries in this thread doesnt solve it. There are several threads about it in development forum, it brings nothing but harm to keep showing it. I didnt jump any bad vipe here, i actually mean that this thread should have more substance. But lets say you are right mister spam moderator.

And how must I see that a simple +1 means all that? I see how the situation is escalating again, and so I intervene.
But you, as often, like to stick your nose in these things without actually bringing anything contructive to it.
I don't care about how you feel about me, but next time, try to be a bit more complete in your replies, unless it's very clear.

Ok now kiss

So explain then why people are allowed to spam endlessly and complaining about things (and that’s fine) but complaining about those complaining with non aggressive language (often less inflammatory then the original complainers) causes you to “moderate” or reply via a strong worded message those doing so? I’m confused. It’s either free for all or neither. Choose which and apply it properly. Either stop all posts relating to this or allow them and hence any subsequent replies so long as it’s not insulting or aggressively attacking someone who be their right to an opinion.

This isn’t discussing individual decisions, just that I’m curious because it doesn’t seem consistent.

Besides which adacas +1 was pretty evident what was meant and which bit he was +1 against and if you didn’t know that maybe ask for clarification rather than make assumptions about things you are not clear about.

adaca is an ex moderator, so he knows perfectly well what can and what cannot be allowed on the forum. He often uses the fine line of what is appropriate to push rage baiting others and he knows it. There's also a clear difference in complaining about game issues and complaining about complaints of other users about game issues.
I know it can be annoying to read yet another complaint, but then again, for us, mods, it's also annoying to read complaints about complaints or complaints about issues that keep on happening, but are not resolved properly, like the issue about clearing cookies which tons of users had, giving them game issues time and time again.
But as annoying as it can be for you, there is no need to react on it if it's not constructive. Do we need to prohibit complaining about anything? If so, we can just close the entire forum, cause it's full of people complaining about others or game stuff...

I just try to keep the mood light. I hope you can now understand my reason for intervening like I did a bit better now?

To me there is no difference between complaining about a feature vs complaining about people complaining when the original complainers post the same thing in multiple forums in multiple places. At that point it becomes spam and you end up with the current scenario.

What you need to do is moderate it so these things stay in the one thread ideally. Especially when it’s always the same topic but because no one seems to come down hard, these same complaints find their way into many other threads without consequence.

I’m not saying prevent complaining or ban people for posting in the wrong places but you can be proactive in where those things occur. That being said if you’re not united as a mod group (if some just like the free plus aspect) then it’s likely going to be a futile effort

The comment that was erased included agressive language. Forum Rules explicitly state that offensive language, personal attacks and provocations are forbidden.

We are all adults here. Please be civilized.

First of all,it's important to be calm and constructive when dealing with someone who is complaining.Because usually the victim is too tired to express their pain.Even if you think their complaint is unfounded, it's best to offer more constructive advice.

What I generally see is that before people can even fully explain their complaint, passive-aggressive individuals immediately make the situation worse by leaving negative comments.This is not the behavior of a mature person.Because it requires empathy.Just because you haven't experienced the same things doesn't give anyone the right to criticize those who have been victimized.If someone experiencing a problem reports their complaint under the correct forum topics, what could be more natural than that?

What's abnormal is complaining about people's complaints.If you're bothered by people's complaints, you don't have to read the comment and leave a negative review.Because that's judging people directly.Many people abandon the topic and start discussing different things.There were even a few times when people complained about messages I wrote purely for fun.

I understand and appreciate the administrators very much.It's natural to complain about something. But complaining about those who complain is ridiculous.If you're so bothered, why don't you read the complaints under the forum threads and complain about other people?I have never seen such disrespect in my life.Even though I didn't file a complaint, I was subjected to a witch hunt-like online lynching simply for sending a message for fun.My request to everyone is to refrain from criticizing people on sensitive topics.

That works both ways too. If you’re bothered by people complaining about people who have already complained in x (where x is > 1/2) different threads everytime they get a new instance which adds nothing to the conversation of what’s already known then you can also choose to not read the complaints that come back as well.

I don’t condone abusive language if the deleted post was that and so on that basis was rightfully deleted but if you’re allowed to post complaints then by right others should be allowed to complain back. My other posts have merely been on the response to say adacas simple comment of +1 which was fairly clear where that was coming from.

What you’ll find is in most cases (perhaps not the post that was deleted here) but those complaining against the complainers are mostly because they post in a ridiculous amount of places (not one but in as many as they possibly can) and as often and frequently as they possibly can and that gets tiring. Just keep it in a single thread and the majority will just ignore that thread and let you express your opinions. I don’t care which you choose but this free for all anywhere I feel whenever I feel is what leads to the pushback. That’s where mods need to actually moderate and keep the complaints to the right threads.