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Subject: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!
Now NT competitions have lost all their aura. No risks, no stakes.
lol, what risks? risks for who?
the only one that risked anything was the owner of player
NT coach risked nothing, he just played with players of other people. and NT coaches often used best players against weakest opponents exactly because there was no risk for them. if the players got injured - not their problem.
The typical teams will have their stars always available and small nations will never be able to get a lucky break.
exactly the opposite, the change is much better for smaller countries. if Poland or Romania gets best ATT or winger injured it's not a problem. if Moldova gets their best ATT injured or best winger, it is a very big problem.
bigger countries have better benches and can deal with injuries much easier.
and most of all it's a good change for players owners. you have 3 players in NT, one of them played just 1 game. there are people who have 10+ NT players who play almost every game. there are NT players with 50+ games. 3-4 club games a week is already too much injury chances, another chance of injury in NT is definitely last thing that people need.
lol, what risks? risks for who?
the only one that risked anything was the owner of player
NT coach risked nothing, he just played with players of other people. and NT coaches often used best players against weakest opponents exactly because there was no risk for them. if the players got injured - not their problem.
The typical teams will have their stars always available and small nations will never be able to get a lucky break.
exactly the opposite, the change is much better for smaller countries. if Poland or Romania gets best ATT or winger injured it's not a problem. if Moldova gets their best ATT injured or best winger, it is a very big problem.
bigger countries have better benches and can deal with injuries much easier.
and most of all it's a good change for players owners. you have 3 players in NT, one of them played just 1 game. there are people who have 10+ NT players who play almost every game. there are NT players with 50+ games. 3-4 club games a week is already too much injury chances, another chance of injury in NT is definitely last thing that people need.
Changes seem to be done to favor users who only care about training efficiency, despite results and playing with nonsense tactics. These changes will benefit rich teams who can afford the best training staff and secure best training possible without loosing ranking points nor fan mood
Agree. NT looses all purpose. With all the match additions, it’s even better if NT matches just don’t exist if they are not giving anything extra.
purpose of NTs is competition, working together as country to improve, qualifying to tournaments, achieving success on tournaments, not "giving something extra". and NT gave nothing extra anyway, for most players it was only an extra risk of injury that gave nothing for that.
Now friendlies become pointless, it’s only purpose is to train
the purpose of friendlies is exactly that, giving minutes to players so they receive training
purpose of NTs is competition, working together as country to improve, qualifying to tournaments, achieving success on tournaments, not "giving something extra". and NT gave nothing extra anyway, for most players it was only an extra risk of injury that gave nothing for that.
Now friendlies become pointless, it’s only purpose is to train
the purpose of friendlies is exactly that, giving minutes to players so they receive training
These changes will benefit rich teams who can afford the best training staff and secure best training possible without loosing ranking points nor fan mood
If someone has a rich team do you really think he gives a damn about fan mood or rank points? I have 0%-10% fan mood all the time and don't even check if I won or lost in friendlies, couldn't care less :))
These changes are good for competitive teams who play for max, get mostly income from tickets/sponsors and then lose fan mood % because of meaningless friendly games where people don't care about tactics or using best team
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If someone has a rich team do you really think he gives a damn about fan mood or rank points? I have 0%-10% fan mood all the time and don't even check if I won or lost in friendlies, couldn't care less :))
These changes are good for competitive teams who play for max, get mostly income from tickets/sponsors and then lose fan mood % because of meaningless friendly games where people don't care about tactics or using best team
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The real question is: should you give a damn about results fan mood and rank points? I don’t think the world of soccer works that way. Rich teams don’t give a damn because the game is incorrectly designed to minimize the effect of the previous factors mentioned.
When it is more favorable to play with nonsense corner tactics over real tactics, something is wrong. Soccer does not work like that
When it is more favorable to play with nonsense corner tactics over real tactics, something is wrong. Soccer does not work like that
Yeah in real world you also train and improve during trainings not during matches, you can get injured for a whole season and 18yo players can be better than 30yo players. This is a game with lots of things that don't make sense when compared to real life, in fact most things in games like this are completely unrealistic. It's just a simple game.
Of course the game is broken because it's more profitable to train & make profit than to play competitively. Everybody knows that since at least 15 years.
It doesn't change the fact that meaningless friendlies negatively impacting fan mood and thus sponsors / tickets of top competitive teams who play at highest level every official game is simply stupid and not needed.
Of course the game is broken because it's more profitable to train & make profit than to play competitively. Everybody knows that since at least 15 years.
It doesn't change the fact that meaningless friendlies negatively impacting fan mood and thus sponsors / tickets of top competitive teams who play at highest level every official game is simply stupid and not needed.
Agree. Eliminating friendlies directly and just assigning the training percentage to 11 selected players would have made more sense than these changes where if you don’t play corner tactics in friendlies, you are just being dumb.
If I have 11 players and they're all getting trained without playing a game, why would I ever play them? Just buy them at 16 and let them sit on the bench uninjured for 8 seasons until theyre good enough
And that would be completely unrealistic as well, so now we would have to make experience matter by impacting the skills similarly to form, but then we would be back to the beginning because young players would again need to play in friendlies to get experience. Traders would not care about experience though;).
Plus if we allow richest / biggest teams to compete at highest level while earning most money from tickets / sponsors to also make money on training youngsters without impacting their results then it would lead to creating overpowered teams that would rarely have their down-periods.
I'm afraid that for this game to make sense it would need a very big makeover in every aspect, done properly with vision from A to Z, otherwise every big change will always have smaller or bigger negative impacts on other mechanics or will be impossible to be done properly because of other mechanics blocking it.
Changing small pieces one by one can improve the game and make it better, but it won't fix it.
Plus if we allow richest / biggest teams to compete at highest level while earning most money from tickets / sponsors to also make money on training youngsters without impacting their results then it would lead to creating overpowered teams that would rarely have their down-periods.
I'm afraid that for this game to make sense it would need a very big makeover in every aspect, done properly with vision from A to Z, otherwise every big change will always have smaller or bigger negative impacts on other mechanics or will be impossible to be done properly because of other mechanics blocking it.
Changing small pieces one by one can improve the game and make it better, but it won't fix it.
Exactly. Realism can't be the aim, it has to be balance and the balance is all wrong right now.
Competion is sacrificed in favour of training and finances because winning isn't rewarded. This happened because inflation made training vastly more profitable. To win in this game is to sit on a mountaintop starving yourself of oxygen. To redress the balance
1. Winning has to be worth it. Sponsor money probably needs to go down, prize money definitely needs to go up. The system probably needs to be a bit more volatile and dependent on results.
2. Training needs to be divorced from the league and IC. There can't be any benefit to not trying to win. Training needs a cost, but it cant be the competitive aspect of this game. That is game breaking.
3. Something has to be done about the whales because you can't make any meaningful financial change if you've got clubs sitting on 300m, undermining market adjustments.
4. New clubs need a lot more help. I dont know if their income was ever adjusted for inflation but it really needs to be.
Competion is sacrificed in favour of training and finances because winning isn't rewarded. This happened because inflation made training vastly more profitable. To win in this game is to sit on a mountaintop starving yourself of oxygen. To redress the balance
1. Winning has to be worth it. Sponsor money probably needs to go down, prize money definitely needs to go up. The system probably needs to be a bit more volatile and dependent on results.
2. Training needs to be divorced from the league and IC. There can't be any benefit to not trying to win. Training needs a cost, but it cant be the competitive aspect of this game. That is game breaking.
3. Something has to be done about the whales because you can't make any meaningful financial change if you've got clubs sitting on 300m, undermining market adjustments.
4. New clubs need a lot more help. I dont know if their income was ever adjusted for inflation but it really needs to be.
Inn all honesty, and I should not care so much about international games, I only have one international player, but to make those games arcade is dumb. Why would you have aracade in the 1st place? ok, keep arcade for club games, fine, it might be a very usefull took to tune in tactics. But to have international games as arcade, what the hell? Also friendlies with no impact on fans? Where is the logic? Have a smaller imact than official games, but to have it as no impact makes 0 sense. Are users even being asked about this? I would like to see a poll at least or something. There are a lot of things wrong with this game, like the way older players are losing skill, there is no real link between league and ticket prices and attendance, the season is too short, cards get moved from one season to the other etc...
the strange thing for me is that we had a discussion and a vote and in conclusion a compromise with NT friendlies as arcade. And now they change it again, without discussion and vote, due to some complainers? If they pay attention to that, they also could have reduced injuries in general.
I feel a bit sad for no training anymore for U21 players from NT matches, it was an interesting aspect of the game.
I feel a bit sad for no training anymore for U21 players from NT matches, it was an interesting aspect of the game.
it's probably due to additional official match for everyone (IC), so additional 90 minutes of risking injury
I dont like it too, but not because of no training as that training was close to irrelevant, nonetheless, but because of lack of injuries as injuries in NT was a good mechanic, nicely linked with normal game
also, NT matches as Arcade matches, will now be worthless
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I dont like it too, but not because of no training as that training was close to irrelevant, nonetheless, but because of lack of injuries as injuries in NT was a good mechanic, nicely linked with normal game
also, NT matches as Arcade matches, will now be worthless
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This change makes the NT matches like kindergarten. The same importance as the ridiculous youth matches. Stupid change that makes the game even less attractive. Next change... Delete money from the game and make each team only able to play with their own players. No more transfers...
