Subject: Save NT prospects from bot team

Maybe you just don't care about it anymore?

Try finding a different admin to do it and give up your star if you're annoyed with it, it seems so by your reaction.

You don't have to do it, someone else can. Or nobody if there are no admins who want to do it.

ed: unless it's Clau who is responsible. If so, leave it and comments to him if it's his job...
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clauu is doing it, but it's hard to explain to users the meaning of this topic.

They are best from Slovenija... So as Raul said you should save them. I have another 150 names from U21 but - using selective approach - I've choosen only those 4:

Peter Trubar - 20yo - value: 1 074 000 zł
Franci Koncar - 21yo - value: 671 000 zł
Alfred Kocnar - 21yo - value: 471 000 zł
Izidor Primožič - 20yo - value: 391 000 zł

Thank you.

be sure they will be saved. :) but not by me, I had enough of weak players.

Maybe you simply haven't figured out that this game is almost dead and almost every young players is valuable for many u21 teams, even if you would never buy him. They know who they have in their countries.

Just look at TL. It's almost impossible to even buy a half-decent 32yo+ defender or mid, the prices are crazy because there are no players to buy and many people who need players. It's even worse with small countries and NTs. If you have 3 active youth schools in a country imagine how many 'quality' players do you get for u21.

i know, but nobody is buying them except the case when the nt coach is looking for a user to buy him. and, once again, we started this project for really valuable players.
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Valuable to NTs not valuable in terms of market...

NT coaches of small countries often have a number of users happy to help them with training, especially now with different training options, some NT coaches buy players themselves just so they don't get wasted

For me it's absurd that people still want to give so much time and energy for u21 NTs of small countries, if they try so hard it's really not much of a problem just to put a bot player on TL, even if he seems week. Who loses in this situation, what's problem?

It's not like there are 50 people asking for it every week...

NT coaches of small countries often have a number of users happy to help them with training, especially now with different training options, some NT coaches buy players themselves just so they don't get wasted

it's very rare.

50 people asking for it every week

no, but tho' they are a lot.

Valuable to NTs not valuable in terms of market

no value on Tl, no chance to be trained.

saving players from little countries should be a different topic and whoever has the guts to take care of it, should do it. imo
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Its not rare, you just don't know about it. But you should.

Many u21 coaches trains low-valued players just for nt purpose.
I know people who use social media to find new users in such small countries.
What get they for that efforts? Nothing but yours resistance.

But thanks to Clau, he is right person in a right place.

i don't believe you, and you can't show me 5 cases. :)
thanks for your appreciation, I really had good intentions with this topic, and now I receive gratitude from users like you. thank you!

I don't really get your problem, had a bad day?

I really had good intentions with this topic, and now I receive gratitude from users like you

Well it's not about opening the topic, is it?

You're the one who came after other users saying that you can't believe they are NT coaches and don't know the level of NT players etc...even though they probably know the current level more than you do and even though you're not the admin dealing with the cases now

You opened the topic but it's not up to you how it works now...so leave it to Clau to decide who to list and who to ignore, as he already said

Oki guys, let's wrap it up.
I wanted tonight to list more players, but I am too tired.
Tomorrow I will start from the first players which have not been saved yet.

ok :)

wow, at first I was like ... wth is he posting so weak players here. Then I look at what players you have in your U21 team and I was shocked. Without junior school reform U21 teams of small countries are destined to doom.

5 cases? Ok, so, lets think about players 19-21yo (16-18 would be too easy), with minimum value of 300 000zł (4th of my list is 391 000zł).

polish user Germanek. coach of Ireland U21, 7 players 19yo with low value, training just for NT purpose, lowest values: 140 000zł, 159 000zł.
polish user norbert1987, coach of Iceland U21, 2 players 19yo with low value, training just for NT purpose, lowest values: 287 000zł, 290 000zł.
I got 1 player from Slovenija U21, 20yo Brezovar with value of 420 000zł, but he is total crap for training purpose with his age, but Im holding him just for NT purpose.
polish user RajConn, coach of Israel U21, 1 player 19yo, training just for NT purpose, value of 266 000zł.

just checked few polish users I know about, and already 10+ "useless" players. In meaning of skills worth maybe even more, like 20+ just by 3 users...

And more...

51 players with 19-21yo, value below 300 000zł, which already played in NT's at least one match.

You don't have to believe me, you can see it by yourself.

I believe that you had good intentions, but it was 2,5 years ago. Sokker has less and less users. Small countries are "dying".
But there are people who are trying to help those small communities (like me and others), trying to keep that game alive.
If you are fighting with us, you are against that game. And its not ok especially beeing an admin. If you dont want to help (its ok, you dont have to) at least dont disturb.
So yes, you received "gratitude" from user like me, what you expected?
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Thank you, as you can see Im not crazy, just doing what I can and its not easy.