Subject: Blackx's last word

I mean, from the Sokker survival perspective, improving the ME won't attract more users since it's already the best there is :P

Of course we all hope the time to improve it comes soon :)

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I think ME have some stupid things. But there is a lot more to work.
I prefer this ME with 20k users than a perfect ME with 5k users

5k active, real users and perfect ME sounds great, though. I prefer this than 20k "users".
Now, we have 10k users, from which probably 2-3k could be dropped due to long inactivity, and 90% of the rest is not much active either.

ME is still best there is, the reason why we still play this game and not some of the others.

What makes sokker, sokker is the ME combined with tactic editor.

Well... I'm not convinced I'm afraid! Do you have any idea about the amount of users who are completely bored of the game?
And do you know what it is that keeps them here? Sure as hell isn't the ME or tactics editor...

It's the training and youth part and/or the NT/U21 part that matters! They search for something new that keeps them interested, while they let their team ''survive'' inactivity.
And what do they do? Training only youngsters, train only toptalents, train only the best players of sokker, train only NT/U21 players from their own country or start scouting/coaching an NT or U21 team. And about the ME and tactics editor... They do not care for sportive achievements, so why should they care about the ME or the tactics editor?
People who love the ME and TE are happy with the game, complain about some random stuff, but they won't quit because of the ME and TE.
And I guess that's the reason why it's not the devs first priority.

for most of active users sk is also habit or maybe even addiction(?)

btw. just noticed that:


kind of, then and now, elections in Poland

Wow! Poland has the exact same amount of users now, as they had in 2008? :-p

Let’s hope that the new upgrades give a good modernisation to sokker and we can attract more players…but in my eyes would get many more users of it was accessible also via mobile phone apps

Compared to other games, I think the ME and the tactics editor are good, in my case what I believe had to happen is an improvement of these 2, the tactics editor although good is limited as it only focuses on players pursuing the ball, my idea I gave 1 year ago is that the tactics editor had to have an option for offense and defense (with the ball / without the ball), so it would bring a little more realism as it would make the teams have 2 stages (attack and defense), which is normal in football, the ME I think would improve if they thought that well-executed football is not just to be in NT, but to make limited players at U21 level or weak Divisions not seem 4-year-olds playing football.

Now... about blackx.... he may even be right about some of the things he said, but it's not as if all the results he had were because the ME hindered him, in my opinion many of his negative results were due to his strategic error or not knowing how to extract the potential of a player he has... when he lost to Romania in the World Cup final, Romania had total domination of the actions, pressured and made the Czech Republic play most of their time on defense and when I went to talk to him about that, his answer was... we lost because we don't have good strikers, so it doesn't matter if Romania did all that, the problem is not having good strikers and that's why ME didn't help, or in this last World Cup that Switzerland limited the actions of the Czechs and even had better offensive chances in counterattacks, but the problem is simply the ME that helps the other... he had a player who has the potential to be something close to Miaso and he only used him as a player in MID order that play on the side of the field and cross balls in the box.... With those skills, he could even play on the side of the field, but it would be very interesting in ATT order to make him be a player who cuts inside with the ball and thus be an extra danger of goal for example... so the truth is that some coaches lack a little courage to do something different too, it's no use blaming the ME if you don't look to do something new that might work.

You guys are comparing apples and oranges. Why is Sokker's ME better? How is it better?

I don't play other managers, and don't need to to know that Sokker has issues. I don't give rat's ass about how more advances Sokker ME is when a golie drops the ball.

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The best comment about tactics I have read in the past 4 years.. especially the second part. Thank you Woody! :)

I think that goalie thing is not necessary ME, could be just the visualization.

Wow! Poland has the exact same amount of users now, as they had in 2008? :-p

that's not true, I was just informed that these archival election results are always adapted to current number of users, so that way it is always the same amount of users in elections

another stupid sokker bug, didnt realize that

So election turnout % is a fail too :-)
Anyway, that’s clear there r much less enthusiasm. :-)

yes, election turnout is wrong also, but it was probably about 11%, so high anyway

I can't understand how hattrick isn't dying.. soo boring and simple.. Maybe that's the answer. People need not so compelex/simple game. Fast and fun :)) If it is so sokker dev's should target not Z generation ;))

I think that you must change something in other case many users will quite tha game.You must change the engine machine first and after the training system,juniors etc