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Subject: [DEV] International Cup
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Season #75 is slowly coming to an end. Ahead of us is the next one, #76, whose opening falls on a special time of the year – the holiday. The season itself will also be special, because you, dear managers, will gain the opportunity to compete in brand-new competitions for the first time.
International Cup
The new competition will replace the current Champions Cup, which only a few could enter. This change is significant, because in the refreshed format everyone will be able to take part. The entire structure will be divided into multiple levels to ensure there is space for every team. Within a single level, there may be several parallel tournaments, depending on the tier. At the top tier there will be one tournament, at the second tier two parallel tournaments, at the third tier four, and so on.
Each tournament will include 128 teams from different countries, split into 32 groups of 4. The group stage will use a home-and-away format, guaranteeing each team 6 exciting matches during the first six weeks of the season. After the group stage, the knockout phase begins. The top two teams from each group (64 teams total) will advance. The next six rounds, without return legs, will determine who will ultimately lift the cup.
The excitement does not end there, because within the competition you will fight not only for victory. You must avoid relegation or secure promotion to a higher tier of international play. Reaching the eighth round as one of the final sixteen teams guarantees promotion. Finishing last in the group results in relegation.
Exceptions to these rules may occur if teams lose their owners during the competition and become bot-controlled. Such teams will be relegated first, giving active teams a chance to avoid demotion despite poor results.
The first season will be played as a test in an arcade format, although promotions and relegations will still take place. Your players will not receive training, you will not risk injuries, and you will not earn ticket income. After this test season, International Cup fixtures will become fully official matches with all their pros and cons.
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International Cup
The new competition will replace the current Champions Cup, which only a few could enter. This change is significant, because in the refreshed format everyone will be able to take part. The entire structure will be divided into multiple levels to ensure there is space for every team. Within a single level, there may be several parallel tournaments, depending on the tier. At the top tier there will be one tournament, at the second tier two parallel tournaments, at the third tier four, and so on.
Each tournament will include 128 teams from different countries, split into 32 groups of 4. The group stage will use a home-and-away format, guaranteeing each team 6 exciting matches during the first six weeks of the season. After the group stage, the knockout phase begins. The top two teams from each group (64 teams total) will advance. The next six rounds, without return legs, will determine who will ultimately lift the cup.
The excitement does not end there, because within the competition you will fight not only for victory. You must avoid relegation or secure promotion to a higher tier of international play. Reaching the eighth round as one of the final sixteen teams guarantees promotion. Finishing last in the group results in relegation.
Exceptions to these rules may occur if teams lose their owners during the competition and become bot-controlled. Such teams will be relegated first, giving active teams a chance to avoid demotion despite poor results.
The first season will be played as a test in an arcade format, although promotions and relegations will still take place. Your players will not receive training, you will not risk injuries, and you will not earn ticket income. After this test season, International Cup fixtures will become fully official matches with all their pros and cons.
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1-I don't understand what level my team will be at in the international cup if I just got promoted to the first division in my country
2- How is it decided what level each team will be at? A second division team from Andorra is not the same as one from Poland.
3- Why not create a new international cup every season? Without maintaining promotions and relegations. You could be in the third division in your country, just training young players, and be at the highest level of international Cup. It doesn't make sense.
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2- How is it decided what level each team will be at? A second division team from Andorra is not the same as one from Poland.
3- Why not create a new international cup every season? Without maintaining promotions and relegations. You could be in the third division in your country, just training young players, and be at the highest level of international Cup. It doesn't make sense.
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4-The injuries will be adjusted when it's no longer arcade competition, right?
5-We've carefully considered that we're forcing everyone to play one more match each week. With all that entails: more time needed for tactics, match preparation, buying and selling players. We had already added one more league match...
5-We've carefully considered that we're forcing everyone to play one more match each week. With all that entails: more time needed for tactics, match preparation, buying and selling players. We had already added one more league match...
only club magazine is for plus owners? and tournament is for everyone?
I think rank of national A team can be reference for poting division :D
champions league can play only teams from 1-8 rank national teams ( polska to turkey NOW)
europe league from 9- 24 national rank ( from germany to Uruguay Now)
and conference league 24-48 rank.. and then you can put only few teams from first division into tournament. and every season you can upgrade or downgrade if your nation team play bad :D
I think rank of national A team can be reference for poting division :D
champions league can play only teams from 1-8 rank national teams ( polska to turkey NOW)
europe league from 9- 24 national rank ( from germany to Uruguay Now)
and conference league 24-48 rank.. and then you can put only few teams from first division into tournament. and every season you can upgrade or downgrade if your nation team play bad :D
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Yes, a team from the second division in Poland is not at the same level as a team from Andorra. We have created an algorithm that selects teams based on the level of the country. It works something like this:
- each country's champion will start the competition in the top league (almost the same as in the Champions League)
- then, depending on the number of users in the country, teams are evenly distributed among divisions
- in countries where there are only two league levels, teams (human) from the lowest level will compete with teams from, for example, Poland from the lowest level
3. We considered various options, including creating a new cup each season. This solution also had its drawbacks, so we decided on the option with promotions and relegations.
If you want to play at the right level in an international cup, you have to be able to afford to maintain your squad. This will be difficult if you ignore the national league and play at a low level with juniors.
4. In the first season, it will be arcade mode, so players will not suffer injuries. In the next season, when the matches become official, injuries will occur. At the moment, there are no plans to shorten them or reduce their frequency. But this is not ruled out; there will certainly be discussion on this topic and data will be reviewed.
5. No one is forced to participate. The club will have four matches to play per week. In fact, if someone does not want to or feels they do not have the time, they can simply choose not to devote time to the international league. They can play with juniors or forfeit the matches. In the first seasons, the international cup, like the national cup, will not be included in the seasonal expectations.
Yes, a team from the second division in Poland is not at the same level as a team from Andorra. We have created an algorithm that selects teams based on the level of the country. It works something like this:
- each country's champion will start the competition in the top league (almost the same as in the Champions League)
- then, depending on the number of users in the country, teams are evenly distributed among divisions
- in countries where there are only two league levels, teams (human) from the lowest level will compete with teams from, for example, Poland from the lowest level
3. We considered various options, including creating a new cup each season. This solution also had its drawbacks, so we decided on the option with promotions and relegations.
If you want to play at the right level in an international cup, you have to be able to afford to maintain your squad. This will be difficult if you ignore the national league and play at a low level with juniors.
4. In the first season, it will be arcade mode, so players will not suffer injuries. In the next season, when the matches become official, injuries will occur. At the moment, there are no plans to shorten them or reduce their frequency. But this is not ruled out; there will certainly be discussion on this topic and data will be reviewed.
5. No one is forced to participate. The club will have four matches to play per week. In fact, if someone does not want to or feels they do not have the time, they can simply choose not to devote time to the international league. They can play with juniors or forfeit the matches. In the first seasons, the international cup, like the national cup, will not be included in the seasonal expectations.
only club magazine is for plus owners? and tournament is for everyone?
Tournament is for everyone.
Tournament is for everyone.
"In the first seasons, the international cup, like the national cup, will not be included in the seasonal expectations."
So there's plans to adapt that, as well for the national cup then I hope?
So there's plans to adapt that, as well for the national cup then I hope?
That'e the plan, but it will atke some time I think. I don't know, 2-3 seasons.
3- Why not create a new international cup every season? Without maintaining promotions and relegations. You could be in the third division in your country, just training young players, and be at the highest level of international Cup. It doesn't make sense.
it wouldn't make sense financially
the ticket & sponsors money (with very low/0 fanclub satisfaction) would be too low to finance the team (players, wages etc.) so in most cases users would train young players only to make up for the lost "system" money - you can as well just play with first team and make the money from performances
at the same time, would it make more sense to you if you were from Romania, Italy or Poland, played for 70+ and had to compete at low level, while at top level every sound there would be teams playing for 40-50 from small countries?
promotion/degradation system is the only one that makes sense, with time everyone will play at Cup level that is adequate to their team level - so nobody is discriminated because of country of origin
it wouldn't make sense financially
the ticket & sponsors money (with very low/0 fanclub satisfaction) would be too low to finance the team (players, wages etc.) so in most cases users would train young players only to make up for the lost "system" money - you can as well just play with first team and make the money from performances
at the same time, would it make more sense to you if you were from Romania, Italy or Poland, played for 70+ and had to compete at low level, while at top level every sound there would be teams playing for 40-50 from small countries?
promotion/degradation system is the only one that makes sense, with time everyone will play at Cup level that is adequate to their team level - so nobody is discriminated because of country of origin
So, basically at the end of this season teams will be deployed to their respective cup levels.
We play first season in arcade mode and after that matches will become official and teams will be promoted/relegated based on their results in the first arcade season regardless of who wins national league and cup?
Did I get it right?
We play first season in arcade mode and after that matches will become official and teams will be promoted/relegated based on their results in the first arcade season regardless of who wins national league and cup?
Did I get it right?
In the next season, when the matches become official, injuries will occur. At the moment, there are no plans to shorten them or reduce their frequency. But this is not ruled out; there will certainly be discussion on this topic and data will be reviewed.
This has to be taken into consideration. 1 more game/week means 25%/33% more weekly games for first team players and as much more chance for another injury while team is playing in the Cup and all times will play at least half of season in the cup.
This has to be taken into consideration. 1 more game/week means 25%/33% more weekly games for first team players and as much more chance for another injury while team is playing in the Cup and all times will play at least half of season in the cup.
Yes, country/league level/league position matter only for the original first edition of the Cup. Everything after that is based on promotion/relegation, just like in league system.
depending on the number of users in the country, teams are evenly distributed among divisions
What does this ranking system mean for the top level for the first season? Is it going to be first from all countries (98 teams) and the remaining will be a bunch of Polish teams? Or will it be filled with league 2nd place teams from the bigger countries?
What does this ranking system mean for the top level for the first season? Is it going to be first from all countries (98 teams) and the remaining will be a bunch of Polish teams? Or will it be filled with league 2nd place teams from the bigger countries?
The new games will generate more revenue and consequently fuel inflation here. If more playing time also leads to more exhaustion among players, teams will expand their squads and field more players. More players will be needed. This raises the question of whether it would make sense to provide more players with advanced training and increase the number from 10 to 12.
Is it going to be first from all countries (98 teams) and the remaining will be a bunch of Polish teams? Or will it be filled with league 2nd place teams from the bigger countries?
Top1 teams from 96 countries (countries with users). Than I don't know exactly, but possibly additional:
- 3 teams from Poland
- 2 teams from Italy, Romania, Brasil, Turkiye, Espana
- 1 team from next countries
Something like that.
Top1 teams from 96 countries (countries with users). Than I don't know exactly, but possibly additional:
- 3 teams from Poland
- 2 teams from Italy, Romania, Brasil, Turkiye, Espana
- 1 team from next countries
Something like that.