Subject: [DEV] International Cup

Impossible, even if you create 15 levels I can guarantee you it will be possible for a team to stay afloat in the middle levels while playing with a team bought for around 1m euro, so this wouldn’t change anything


It is possible if you make only the top of the structure steeper. For example in the following way:



This format requires 6-7 seasons at a high level (probably 70+) to reach the elite tournament ( if you start from the base of a 60-65 team that can be maintained with a 1-2m euro budget). Farners can still reach the top tournament, but only for a shorter period at the end of their cycle. Or even more levels with only one tournament so to make it basically impossible for farmers)

We don't need full division. 3293 users + bots that makes number divided by 128, that's all, no need more bots.

On which day of the week will the international cups be played?

First season it will be played at mondays without changing rest of the calendar.

From the second season we will swap cup to friday, and national cup/friendly to monday.

Another thing that is not thought true spending time and efforts to eliminate only good thing we play for champions cup...
Don't get me started how valuable info was shared only to some teams and is announced to late for all...

Will the Champions Cup, played on Thursdays, continue?

1. Will sponsorship/fanclub members still be solely based on National League 'prestige' (ie based on the average number of fanclub members over the league).
I know matches in the International Cup with have some bearing based on expectations, but thats still just a multiplier of a 'League prestige" which currently is the National League.

There are two types of expaectations:
- seasonal - and that are based only on league and so it stays for now, but there are plans to add another parts to seasonal expactations including national cup and international cup
- match expetations - that are base only on a number of funclub members since I remember. No plans about that part.

2. If the League prestige/Cup prestige are both important, what is the split? 50/50?

As I said - expectations are based just on league for now.
70% comes from league expectations (current and previous season)
30% comes from recent matches (old expectations)

If there will be some kind of change, I would suggest:
- 40% from league expectations
- 30% from international cup expectations
- 15% from national cup expectations
- 15% from recent matches
Or something like that.

3. Reading the news, it sounds like each season, the cup is a random draw from within your league level. Just making sure I read this right.

Yup, you read this right. We will have 512 teams at level 3 of the cup. And they will be drawed each season to 4 cup with 128 teams to 32 groups each.

I guess that this is a part of a plan to promote game and make it more interesthing.

Then, based on which parameter all teams deserve to play international cup?! Imo that's a motivation downer for any new team willing to compete but in its own pace, not instantly.

Me personally like the additional match idea, but wouldn't mind that this one stay in arcade mode all the time - without injuries and additional ticket money. Otherwise, market crush and inflation could easely occur ..

Don't get me started how valuable info was shared only to some teams and is announced to late for all...

I don't know what are you talking about right now, but you can let me know what is the problem.

Will the Champions Cup, played on Thursdays, continue?

Not decided yet. Two options still on the table.
- champions cup stays for another one season and will be played on thursday as it was
- champions cup will be removed, but new cup will be already a continuation and you will see it in a one line in your club history (graph)

Otherwise, market crush and inflation could easely occur ..

There are plans to reduce income from tickets whet cup becomes official.

Ok that would work for what you're proposing, but:

a. it would be a terrible experience for most teams (6k out of ~8k) who would be "forever" destined to play at 9-10 level and thus this competition would be a waste of time for them

b. I don't think it would actually be a big issue or even any issue for "farming teams". you don't farm money and then just buy a ready 80+ team, it doesn't work like that. you actually buy 16-17yo players and go up while training them. I was able to play at level ~65 already with 21-22yo trainees so I would still probably very easily reach the level 1-2 while my team was reaching its peak level at age 25-26.

If anything I think it would be a problem for normal teams in my opinion who also go through peak/low spells and would have problems in reaching level 1-3 since so few teams would go up every season.

1. This season is crucial for which level you start is that true ? So if you know that you can push yourself to high position so knowledge of structure is advantage...
2. The ultimate champions cup if removed will eliminate only possible valuable achievement for teams from medium and small countries...

So you need to postpone this for one more season if you want to be fair

All international arcade tournaments are much more fun at some point there will be polish teams only ... And will eliminate arcade tournaments in forum

Adding one more game for all with more injuries will kill many teams

Don't rush on something just to give us bad present for Christmas..

This game is played from people that work full time kids come and go they will not bring you money owners want ..

And one more thing keep your promise for world cup schedule you promised something pls keep your promisses

1. This season is crucial for which level you start is that true ? So if you know that you can push yourself to high position so knowledge of structure is advantage...

The only person who plays that game and knows +/- what place in league should you acheve to get some level of international cup - is me. And I know just +/-, not exactly, besides its bit fluid, based on number of active users in the game, so may change to te draw of the tournament.
You don't have to be worried about that. You have same knowledge at the same time as other users in this game.

2. The ultimate champions cup if removed will eliminate only possible valuable achievement for teams from medium and small countries...

that's illogical, I have no idea how you come up with such conclusions

every team will have same chance to win the International Cup as it had to win the Champions Cup

if a team was able to win Champions Cup, it will be able to promote to highest level Cup and also win it

This game is played from people that work full time kids come and go they will not bring you money owners want ..

lol

so you were able to play league, national cup and champions cup

but now you won't be able to play league, national cup and international cup, so exactly the same amount of games
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So you saying in Polish forum this was not discussed ? And the importance of as high position you finished is not important ..and I just for first time of many seasons I gave up to compete due injuries 6 7 at same time is not decision I will not make if I know this in beginning of season...