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Subject: [DEV] International Cup

2025-12-31 00:07:23
But if people prefer to spend 90% of their money on buying already trained, older players? Well they won't improve, they will stay at their level. And that's what most teams do.

Yes and no. It will depend on that player situation. But I would take 60-70% accumulated money on last player (IF he is worth it) to be a decent investment.
2025-12-31 00:07:56
Here an example that is possible: Team ID: 46808
2025-12-31 00:21:33
Of course it's possible, we are not talking about a theory. Teams have already done that, but thank you for a recent example.

There was a team in Luxemburg that played for 80+ and won the final of Champions Cup. Xineon (Football Warriors) from Latvia had a very strong 80+ team for years, his team played even for 84 and he reached bronze in Champions Cup.

People have already done it, they are still doing it, so I don't understand how others can be arguing that it's impossible.
2025-12-31 00:35:46
yes i remember, and Xineon was a good NT coach, same as black eagle
2025-12-31 00:52:13
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2025-12-31 13:53:13
Well, the biggest question about to build a good team or build a near 80 raiting team. What is your goal in the game?

Thats true a good foundations are important. But if I see my country. 2 teams did this yet.
One was the Ufhcs, who started the game again and had some experience. He invested enough time in the game to make his money in the beginning, and after bought talented youngsters to get to the top as he trained them so many years. Of course, good form is also needed for the rating too.

Now he can practically stay at the top for several seasons and enjoy the benefits. No problem for him to play very kind of competition.

But someone only want train his own youthes, someone only want to train players for NT.

When I started the game I trained defenders and its a little bit joke but I always bought bad or average talented players. But as I knew the tackling and pace slowly trained skill, it wasn't a problem for me, I didn't noticed I am unlucky with these players. So many seasons I bought bad talents or average talents and trained them 6-10 seasons, when my last generation defenders came. I was lucky as I bought 9 really talented players from the 10. If someone trade so much at the begining easier know who can be talented or no maybe.

Another way. So many players overpay young players, sometimes somebody pay 7-8 million euro for a player, after it seems it sims he is a bad talent. But we can buy players with cheap price with less risk with a good suprise talent.

Now I know it can be already know that this assessment can be done with 80 rating. But its not everybody main goal.. Want to play with big analyse and take so many match seriously, have an energy for this? Or want to play always 5 defenders in club matches always for the succes, or want to simply enjoy the game with lower rating and play with 4 or 3 defenders formations wit an attractive a football for example. Everybody can decide this what important for his ownself.

We spoked so much time about the game and asked questions on the forums, but nowadays the forum not so active in Hungary. Less the new managers. Beside the communications we did thing badly sometimes.
2025-12-31 16:42:13
you only look at disadvantages and not at advantages that weaker leagues have... 2-3 weeks more of 50% tickets in cup being a major difference, when you can easily train younger players and never go down from 1st league, seriously? :))

Not exactly true last season we had 6 users that in arcade can do 75 rating
And 10 70+ so you can easily can relegate ...
Especially when you have 5 injuries plus carded players players at same time

On bottom division we have teams that can beat you in playoffs with some luck if they decide to play seriously
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But for most of them speeding up game was too much

So it's not so easy as you think thankfully most of teams prefer to train as well than win title but is personal choice in the name of the nt team...

Any ways happy new year to all
2025-12-31 17:37:01
They won’t understand you because they don’t know what it is, and there’s no way they can understand how two national teams are maintained at a high level with 20 training users. That there’s no way to make money from transfers, because 90% of the players in these clubs are national team members and have been trained for 10+ seasons........
Only people placed in such conditions can understand this.
Happy celebrations
2025-12-31 18:09:07
I understand that.

Some people can want to train NT players for their country in all 10 slots.

Some people can want to use ONLY their own youth players.

Some people don't want to make transfers and just train players for themselves.

Some people don't want to train and just buy players for 1st team with every money they have.

Some people only want to train 16-21yo players and after that they sell them and buy new young players.

Some people only want to make money on training/transfers and don't care about results.

And so on. All of those approaches are fine, everyone can play the way they want.

But if you play only with your own youth school players don't complain that others are stronger, because that was your choice. If you prefer to train players for your NT, good for you, but nobody is making you do that, it is your choice, not something that you have to do.

Everyone can have a 80+ team if he spends enough time and understands the game well enough. This is not limited by country, or league, or income - it was already proven by many teams from small countries. In some cases it can only be harder due to timezones. But in general it is possible for everyone and it's even easier to sustain in very small countries than in biggest countries (where it's impossible to sustain over long period).
2025-12-31 18:15:08
... in biggest countries (where it's impossible to sustain over long period).

We'll see how long luccassd can keep ratings above 80. Now it's his the second season. He has everything to do it as long as possible.
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2025-12-31 18:16:08
It is a matter of choice. I also could just spend ticket & sponsor money, play for 70 and train players worth 500k euro for 86%. Play in 3rd league and just stay at same level all time.

Instead I have for many seasons played at very low level and concentrated only on buying cheap youths, looking for talent and training to create enough funds for my future team.

Now I have top 17-18yo players and I still have to train them for at least 7 more seasons before I have a good team. It all takes time, nobody gave that to me for free. I will have a top 80+ team in 2-2.5 years of training + years of creating funds. That was my choice, I'm not crying that it takes time or that I had to spend a lot of time on transfers and training.

But people saying that users in big countries have top 80+ teams because of ticket & sponsor money have completely no idea what they are talking about. The same process can be done in literally every country, due to some details parts are easier and parts are harder in different leagues, but in general everyone can do it. 99% of users simply won't spend their time to do the hard work required for this process and just want the end product.
2025-12-31 18:19:21
In Poland it mostly depends on how much money you have gathered before starting the push to Ekstraklasa. I have no idea how much money Luccassd has so it's hard to say. Lipa91 managed 13 seasons in a row, most of them at very high level.

It also depends whether your aim is to have as strong team as possible for short period or a strong but a bit weaker team over longer period. In others words, for example after your first generation of players gets to 32+ you can change them to 10m euro players twice or to 20m euro players once;)
2025-12-31 18:27:13
I don't remember exactly how much he had at the start, but it was definitely over 1kkk pln. IMHO Luccassd have now the best team ever in Ekstraklasa. it's team you can compare to yours in the way to the Polish top. :)
2025-12-31 18:32:42
Yeah I know some of his player's skills and the Sky Monsters team name is very appropriate :-P

Hard to say if it will be the best team ever when it peaks, there were many amazingly strong teams over last years so it's hard to compare them without knowing/remembering exact lineups and skills. Lipa also had real monsters in his team and played for 85+ in some games.

Anyway, a happy New Year to everyone and let's hope this game gets better in 2026 :-)
2025-12-31 18:39:54
Yeah, let's fun in sokker all 2026 to everyone of us ;)
2025-12-31 18:52:52

They won’t understand you because they don’t know what it is, and there’s no way they can understand how two national teams are maintained at a high level with 20 training users. That there’s no way to make money from transfers, because 90% of the players in these clubs are national team members and have been trained for 10+ seasons........
Only people placed in such conditions can understand this.
Happy celebrations

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finally someone said that!!!!

they never know our NT problems.. im the NT of Israel and half of my squad are Israelies NT's players and if not me and one-two more teams from our country that trying to develop the Israelies players , our NT will be sucks!!!
i talking with all users who have an Israeli NT player and most of them are getting lost and not trained well so i must do it myself!
8\10 of my training players are Israelis and i can't sell them for profit because the NT is most important to me...
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