Subject: Youth school strategy

I've been thinking and thinking about what to do with the youth team for a long time. I barely get players, and the normal ones I get are not talented at all, and I've already started to despair and leave players at low levels in relation to their age, and I want to deal with it and get some advice here from someone who can share his strategy ♥

Up to what level do you leave a player at each age?
For me, it's about if he's 16yo, minimum level 5
If he's 17, minimum level 6?
18, minimum level 9 or 10?
19 minimum level 11-12?

Of course, if I see that a player is insanely talented, then I'll compromise on the final level if necessary...

I would love to hear some opinions from veteran players here. What is your strategy/conditions for each player?

thank you

The last time I pulled a good player was 4 seasons ago and he stay in my club for training (and my meaning for a good player its 1M EURO market value -+ )

If I didn't have a commitment to the national team, I would have stopped investing in the youth school a long time ago because it doesn't seem worthwhile for me
In any case, I'm with a magical coach and at most stages of the season I leave 6 spots open for Saturday.
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For each general level youth academy players have total skills range.

Example if player coming weak (4) from academy their total skills must to be around 12-14. Its could be fine for 16 yo I think.

Minimum for 17yo good(7), for 18 yo solid(8) and for 19 yo very good(9) or higher could be enough to graduate from academy.

It's kind of like how I operate, but all these players are either fired immediately or sold for pennies

I would have 0 juniors in my YS if I applied your criteria. My criteria is a bit simpler:

I leave 100% of 16yo players and start sacking them as soon as I get accurate information about talent and are bad talents. I only had 1 16yo entry this season btw :(
For 17yo players, I leave at least level 5 and always check for talent. Bad talent = sack
I normally sack all 18yo and 19yo who come into school as new juniors. The ones that I leave are the ones who once were 16yo and 17yo and that have confirmed good talent.

I am not being able to apply my simple criteria lately as I have been getting REALLY BAD juniors in the past season and this season, both in quality and quantity.

My strategy is not start level, it is potential exit level:

16y - all at season start or 6+ later
17y - level 8 at start of season
18y - level 10 first half of season
19y - I wouldn't consider under 12 level
If player should come out as 20y - sack without thinking!


This is my current list:

18 formidable [11] outfield 4
(Lvl 12)

18 very good [9] outfield 4
(Lvl 11)

18 brilliant [14] outfield 5
(Lvl15)

18 formidable [11] outfield 6
(Lvl 12)

18 outstanding [12] GK 11
(Lvl 15)

18 very good [9] outfield 12
(Lvl 12)

16 adequate [6] outfield 12
(Lvl 9)

17 solid [8] outfield 13
(Lvl 11)

16 good [7] outfield 24
(Lvl 13)

I have few more only for junior league matches, but try only best potentials play!

Sometimes I let player in YS for few weeks only to rule out coach estimation mistake.
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"Example if player coming weak (4) from academy their total skills must to be around 12-14"

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Ok good to know , stamina included ?
And is there a table or document that details the total sum skills of features that come out of each level?

I would have 0 juniors in my YS if I applied your criteria. My criteria is a bit simpler:

I leave 100% of 16yo players and start sacking them as soon as I get accurate information about talent and are bad talents. I only had 1 16yo entry this season btw :(
For 17yo players, I leave at least level 5 and always check for talent. Bad talent = sack
I normally sack all 18yo and 19yo who come into school as new juniors. The ones that I leave are the ones who once were 16yo and 17yo and that have confirmed good talent.

I am not being able to apply my simple criteria lately as I have been getting REALLY BAD juniors in the past season and this season, both in quality and quantity.

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Regarding 16-year-olds, if they arrive for a short time, it's hard to tell if they're talented. But I understand that you leave 16-year-olds who arrive for a long time in any situation to test their talent. After a few games in the youth, do you really start to understand if they're talented or not?

I also don't leave almost any new 18-19 year olds who arrive because if it's for a short time - they won't turn out good enough for their age, and if it's for a long time, they'll likely be pulled out at age 20-21 and then they really need to be at a super high level and super talented to be useful.

And yet, I compromise quite a bit on the requirements I wrote, and yet despite everything I don't see success in recent seasons.

Is there a connection to the fact that at the beginning of my journey in sokker I received 2 very good players? Or is it completely random?

nice bro thanks
Even with your method, it seems that the chance of getting a good player who meets all the requirements is very rare. Is it possible that I missed something and sokker changed how the youth operates? In terms of the number of players you get, their first level, etc.?

all included

this is mine :

Noam Fadlon 19 formidable [11] outfield 3
Meshulam Korenfine 18 very good [9] outfield 3
Eitan Vandrman 18 excellent [10] outfield 4
Roi Zwili 17 solid [8] outfield 9
Meshulam Sharon 16 poor [3] outfield 10
Tamir Sagir 17 good [7] outfield 11
Ilan Soher 16 average [5] outfield 11
Yarden Refuaa 16 weak [4] outfield 15
Barak Hadida 17 solid [8] outfield 19
Ran Luzon 17 average [5] outfield 20
Yona Amsalem 17 excellent [10] outfield 21
Tomer Cohen 16 weak [4] outfield 26
David Luski 17 weak [4] outfield 28
Eli Catz 17 adequate [6] GK 30
Eliraz Meiri 16 weak [4] outfield 30

Only Yona Amsalem looks good and he is also currently underrated because he has been promoted 5 times in 11 weeks (the last promotion was this week) and this will probably balance out negatively because there is no such thing as a 2-2 point talent.
Apart from him I don't see a player who can stay for training or be sold for a lot of money

Eitan Vandrman - talent 5
Barak Hadida - to pops in 11 weeks

Even though I get players who are supposedly at a good level and at a young age, 95% of the time their talent is trash.

Regarding 16-year-olds, if they arrive for a short time, it's hard to tell if they're talented. But I understand that you leave 16-year-olds who arrive for a long time in any situation to test their talent. After a few games in the youth, do you really start to understand if they're talented or not?

If I am not able to determine the talent, the criteria for me is to leave de 16yo junior and then either sell as fresh or train to test talent. I would never sack a 16yo player if talent is unknown. I track ups and downs to try to estimate talent, just as SK Tables, SA or GM tools do

How many youth games are enough to get a valued talent? Of course not exact, but valued - close to what it really is

Assuming I have a Magical coach of course


I would never sack a 16yo player if talent is unknown
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even if he came as 0-2 starting level?

How many youth games are enough to get a valued talent? Of course not exact, but valued - close to what it really is

I think 4 can start giving you a grasp of talent.

even if he came as 0-2 starting level?

Even like that. The only exception where I would consider sacking those would be if my academy is full of other better options, but the chances of that occurring are minimal.

even if he came as 0-2 starting level?

coach mistake can even be 3-4 levels

so 0-2 level can in fact be 4-6 level

I also never sack fresh 16yos and wait until the low level / bad talent is confirmed

makes much more sense to invest time/money into a 16yo with high potential value than into a 19yo who at best will have a low value

and it's easy to do since most youths have no market value, don't remember when I last had a situation that I had to decide who to sack because I had too many good potentials.
usually I keep 12-14 just to have 11 for the youth league.
currently 13/30 with 2 coming out in 1-2 weeks.

Marian Ługowicz 17 average [5] outfield 1
Konrad Jaskot 18 very good [9] outfield 2
Gromosław Pyż 19 very good [9] GK 9
Walenty Osicki 17 good [7] outfield 9
Mariusz Siarzewski 17 solid [8] outfield 9
Daniel Bylok 16 poor [3] outfield 9
Lesław Gawor 16 adequate [6] outfield 11
Jarostryj Idaszak 17 adequate [6] outfield 16
Jan Tajner 17 average [5] outfield 20
Witold Grulski 17 adequate [6] outfield 20
Jan Sebastian Krauze 17 adequate [6] outfield 23
Zdzisław Guzek 16 adequate [6] outfield 23
Robert Miazga 16 weak [4] outfield 23

Idaszak, Tajner are "confirmed useless" with bad talent / end level, but I keep them just for the purpose of always having 11.

thx guys!

Daniel Bylok 16 poor [3] outfield 9 - when you got him and do u know talent of him?

so 0-2 level can in fact be 4-6 level
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wow i didnt know it
so you say when i get 16yo even if he is 0-2 , i should wait to see his talent . but i guess if i get it only for long time right?
if you get it for maximum 7-8 weeks , you still keep him if he is 0-2?