Subject: Match Engine Change

I don't see pace. Pace decides who gets there first. When a keeper rushes a player, it's getting the ball away from him and in a place where you can finish.

So honestly, i think it should be, in this order, PM (mebbe 50%), Tech (mebbe 30%), and Scoring (20%).

I'm a pace trainer btw, so don't think i'm influenced by that :)

If they want to put something more besides technique for keeper-dribbling (such as playmaking), that's fine, I can live with that. But they should not take technique away and put playmaking instead, that's overreacting. Dribbling keepers is just a form of dribbling, so, if dribbling depends on technique, technique should also be involved in the keeper-dribbling.

lol thats not funny 19 days for kicking the ball?

In real life, Robert Green (West Ham and England) was injured for 2 months trying to kick a ball from a goal kick. he tore his groin muscle. It happens.
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the best r, thats what i think when i see henry
technic? yes
playmaking? yes
pace? yes
schoting? yes
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u keep complaing there r already to enough skills and now it would become to much, so maybe would like ht better(its a one skill game, cant complain there ;) )

Michael Owen collapsed with his injury without anyone being remotely near him aswell.

So, you haven't read what I wrote. Ok, you don't deserve an answer from me either.

It seems to me like these changes raise influence of playmaking to higher level. Last changes made playmaking less important skill.

edit: typo
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It seems to me (from greg's explanation) that playmaking is needed for effectively choosing whether or not to dribble past a GK, not the success of the dribble.

It seems to me like these changes raise influence of playmaking to higher level. Last changes made playmaking less important skill.

No harm in making an adjustment if playmaking got left behind last time then :).
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Right!

So nobody has any thoughts about what I asked on the 1st page:

- Fixed a bug with headers - players will now head the ball more often.

If 2 players go for the high ball, which one will kick it, the one with better technique?

related to this...
if it is tech, then if this high ball is coming in 16m-area, then strikers would always kick the ball cause they have more technique then DEFs

Dribbling GK by a striker will depend equally on his striker and playmaking skill
(instead of technique as was previously said)

Translation of greg:
So depending on playmaking and shooting equally (from the next test matches). Why not... it doesn't have big meaning. It was stupid that GK was always taking the ball from striker's feet if striker didn't decide to shoot nor to pass
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That was Julius' post on the matter. That's all the information we have.

If you see what greg says, it could be what you suggest (it's ambiguous). But if you see the modification to the announcement (in bold) that they made after what greg said, it seems that the dribbling itself is influenced by playmaking.

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I don't think that playmaking was, so far, a skill "left behind". It is "mandatory" for midfielders (specially offensive midfielders). And it was already necessary (even though not at high levels) for defenders and strikers.

In any case, I do not oppose giving playmaking a more important role, I oppose "how" they want to do it: mixing up things and using playmaking for something it should not be relevant (the dribbling).

I am ok if playmaking is used to determine if the striker will take (or not) a good decision, such as, for instance, trying to dribble the keeper. That's fine, I favor that!

So, the problem here is not multi-skills vs mono-skills, but what influence (and on what) should each skill have...

Nobody has officially said that if 2 players go for the high ball at the same time, the one with more technique will prevail, that's something that someone guessed...

yup, maybe we should wait for official clarifications before reacting defensively ;)

"dribbling defenders depends on technique but dribbling keepers depends on playmaking and scoring?

It's not logic, it's not fair, it's not consistent... "

I agree !

I don't want to appear as reacting too defensively either :p

I like all changes (including the keeper-dribbling), and I am only concerned with two things:

1) The implementation of the positioning issue

2) The concrete implementation of the keeper-dribbling.

The rest of the adjustments are OK, and I not only like them, but also was waiting for some of them (such as the heading stuff... I was really tired of seen how, sometimes, my player would get to a long, high ball first, but just to "put it down" for the slower opponent player that would arrive later and take the ball with no resistance :P:P:P).
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