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Subject: »[NT]National fixtures

2010-11-06 13:29:07
you're just angry about the lose, but i can assure you Rafa is not the bad guy , plus considering the weak level (in comaprison to uruguay) of Macedonia, it was quite fair to play full team vs a an under match.

NExt Match Russia U25 vs full Azerbaijan, for instance, so i don't think you need to make all that fuss here
2010-11-06 13:43:30
you're just angry about the lose, but i can assure you Rafa is not the bad guy , plus considering the weak level (in comaprison to uruguay) of Macedonia, it was quite fair to play full team vs a an under match.

Several things to say:

1) If you agree to pay $150 for a cell phone, you should pay $150... not $149 or $151... and the other part cant decide alone if the terms of the agreement can be changed.

2) I am not angry about the lose... I am angry about being cheated.

3) Its not quite fair to play full team vs. under team. The u23 match was agreed on august, and it was Rafa who proposed the u23 match to "reduce the differences between the teams". Now the excuse is exactly the opposite: "we dont have enough players". And if thats the case, its easy: you send an sk-mail saying : "Hi panchoehad, I dont have enough u23 players... I will play with full team. I am telling this for you to do the same". At least thats what a fair manager would do.

4) You are trying to excuse Rafa because for sure he is your friend, so you are not being objective.
2010-11-06 13:46:41
+1
2010-11-06 13:54:19
Well, i can understand your anger (though i got to talk with Rafa few times in the past and also arranged some NT matches with him and he allways respected what we agreed on..) , i personaly have been in this situation before several times, what i learned is that before the match allways look at your opponent squad and see how many U23 (or whatever you agreed on) he has, if you see he has for example 2 or 5 or 9 or whatever, than you can be sure how he will play... i remember at least 1 time that this look at the squad "saved" me from being cheated by i dont remember who...
;-)
2010-11-06 13:57:16
Sharoni... I shouldnt be mistrusting other NT managers, dont you think?

This is like loosing the battle against dishonesty. Default attitude should be "trust", not "mistrust"
2010-11-06 14:01:53
Its should be like you said that trust comes first, but experience showed me that there is nothing to do about it, you allways need to be aware about everything..
I look at the squad of my opponents as an instinct, also to see who is banned, injured, high/low form, on the way you can look how many Ux players there are and if its like you agreed on...
:-)
2010-11-06 14:05:35
I did all that last night, but I cant asume that Rafa wouldnt make the lineup at the last minute... should I violate my agreement and put the full team "just in case" Rafa violates his agreement?

That is not the logic I use. Thats the logic of the preventive attack and I dont share it.
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2010-11-06 20:54:55
he never "cheated" as you say with the Armenia NT, as i remember it is his first time he makes such thing, so imho you should not overreact and as you said to add in the black list of coaches...
2010-11-07 00:24:24
Imho I am the victim here, except for some friends of Rafa.

I am not overreacting. We agreed something. He didnt respect the agreement on purpose and avoided warning me by sk-mail. ¿Why should I take Ice-T opinion as a fact and leave things as if nothing happened?

Please think, then post.
2010-11-07 09:26:15
¿Why should I take Ice-T opinion as a fact and leave things as if nothing happened?

Please think, then post.



First of all, i always think before posting, so using this phrase is appropriate when someone is writting aberrations, so you kinda failed a bit here.

And i said just not to overreact, not to "leave things as if nothing happened", i understand your frustration, but you have to take it easly here :D
2010-11-07 17:11:28
Armenia is looking for friendly this week
2010-11-08 08:27:00
letzebuerg is looking for a friendly this saturday
2010-11-08 10:35:27
Eesti wants a friendly for week 1
2010-11-08 13:55:05
The Dutch NT is looking for a friendly this week. You'll be facing a trainee NT coach.
2010-11-08 19:18:36
I booked with Nippon for this week but they pacted with other....so i'm looking for a friendly for Peru NT, someone is insterested, please send me a sk-mail as soon as possible.
2010-11-08 23:21:55
Please, if you do challenge someone, do allow for some time to respond. I know it may sound unlikely, but I'm not 24/7 online.