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Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

2014-07-31 11:47:23
Baldovino Mlekuz, age: 18

club: Sakaryaspor, country: Italia,
value: 316 800 TL, wage: 4 200 TL,
average [5] form, very good [9] tactical discipline,
height: 173 cm, weight: 75.2 kg, BMI: 25.13

poor [3] stamina unsatisfactory [2] keeper
very good [9] pace formidable [11] defender
weak [4] technique excellent [10] playmaker
formidable [11] passing poor [3] striker



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2014-07-31 12:17:11
you posted him 2 pages ago, and as i can see, he looks the same...yes, he will probably be an u21 player eventually
2014-07-31 12:47:29
I think he will be for sure, probably is one of the best 18 yo, no?
Paid 12kk when he was 17, not bad :D
2014-07-31 13:23:46
probably in the top 5, but not the best 18 yo mid...he clearly overpaid for him, he probably worth around 8,5-9M at that time...it will be very hard get his money back
some seasons ago, i`ve bought a 18 yo mid in the second week with 4,5M, 41 points...the italian has 44 points, not that big difference, but almost triple as price
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2014-07-31 13:52:59
this three points could be half season of training... anyway I think so too
2014-07-31 13:54:59
You can post a better player in that generation? also, 4 skills difference when speaking about top prospects is huge, especially with one of the skills being low.

And having this kind of player is definitely not about money (despite I'm quite sure he should be able to find a 15M € buyer at this point already).
2014-07-31 14:09:15
actually, it`s a 3 point difference...formidable[10]?

and i highly doubt he will be able to find even an 11-12M offer for him right now, maybe from a crazy italian, so let`s not talk about ridiculous money like 15M
2014-07-31 14:10:30
he would take 15M with excellent technique, and not with 4...anyway, i still think it`s impossible at the moment to take his money back from someone
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2014-07-31 14:15:13
with a season of tech training in my plans, i would offer him 15M € without much regrets (also, quite sure he would decline that offer).

once again, there is no sense adding money into discussion when speaking about players like that one, there is way to much managers with 50+M € sitting in their account who couldn't care less about results.
2014-07-31 14:38:56
This is a top player.
And for top players, most of the times there're no "standard price".
Is like the Hungarian star (I can't write his name), that hasn't a real price.
2014-07-31 14:39:38
+1
2014-07-31 15:10:11

Iancu Ceauşu, age: 19

club: Pivo FC, country: România,
value: 408 750 €, wage: 3 850 €,
divine [17] form, very good [9] tactical discipline,
height: 184 cm, weight: 82.5 kg, BMI: 24.37
bookings:
solid [8] stamina tragic [0] keeper
incredible [13] pace outstanding [12] defender
very good [9] technique poor [3] playmaker
unsatisfactory [2] passing poor [3] strike

What do you think? 3 weeks to outstanding def..
2014-07-31 16:03:16
Not really Mlekuz, but also bought for less then quarter of his price :-)

Jörgen Vanari, age: 18, height: 168 cm
value: 5 137 513 Kč, wage: 58 501 Kč
club: Hustlers, country: Eesti
formidable form, solid tactical discipline

tragic stamina, tragic keeper
excellent pace, good defender
poor technique, solid playmaker
formidable passing, average striker
2014-07-31 16:28:06
my young players are growing up :(
i only have these two under 21 now who would make U21 if in form.

Kolyo Momchev , age 21 , sum(77,25)
value: 475 500 €
wage: 7 900 €
tragic (0) form
height: 192 cm, weight: 82.7 kg,
BMI: 22.44

good (7) stamina good (7) keeper
incredible (13) pace solid (8) defender
outstanding (12) technique outstanding (12) playmaker
brilliant (14) passing good (7) striker

Robbie Coutts-Smith, age 20 , sum(67,25)
value: 317 500 €
wage: 4 450 €
poor (3) form
height: 180 cm, weight: 80.7 kg,
BMI: 24.89

good (7) stamina tragic (0) keeper
excellent (10) pace very good (9) defender
outstanding (12) technique outstanding (12) playmaker
excellent (10) passing poor (3) striker
2014-07-31 20:35:08
ok, spend 15M for a player like this and I will take 2-3 points less for 5M :)
I`ve seen many cases of players that went for a lot money, more than they actually deserve, but usually you take him to give them training for u21 and NT, but personal profit...it`s actually impossible to make profit with a player like that...

with a season of tech training in my plans

yes, you can take him to 9-10 technique in a season, but you must consider he will be 19 at that time...
2014-07-31 22:13:13
ok, spend 15M for a player like this and I will take 2-3 points less for 5M :)

You should be extremely lucky to get a 18yo old 40+ sum MID for 5M at this part of the season, it's more like 7+M for those kind of players if their talent can be proven in any way.

yes, you can take him to 9-10 technique in a season, but you must consider he will be 19 at that time...

With tech training, he could easily be at 52+ skill sum before turning 19 and I'm not really sure are You aware how rare that actually is. Miaso had 54 sum at that point and he is still only 5 x 18 player afaik.