Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

ok, spend 15M for a player like this and I will take 2-3 points less for 5M :)

You should be extremely lucky to get a 18yo old 40+ sum MID for 5M at this part of the season, it's more like 7+M for those kind of players if their talent can be proven in any way.

yes, you can take him to 9-10 technique in a season, but you must consider he will be 19 at that time...

With tech training, he could easily be at 52+ skill sum before turning 19 and I'm not really sure are You aware how rare that actually is. Miaso had 54 sum at that point and he is still only 5 x 18 player afaik.

You should be extremely lucky to get a 18yo old 40+ sum MID for 5M at this part of the season, it's more like 7+M for those kind of players if their talent can be proven in any way

what do i win if i buy you a 40 points with less than 5M?

With tech training, he could easily be at 52+ skill sum before turning 19 and I'm not really sure are You aware how rare that actually is
8 points in 1 season? maybe if he were very very high on 3 skills, rather than technique, so he can pop from general training...and i`m sure miaso was way over 54 points when he was 19, beginning of the season...
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what do i win if i buy you a 40 points with less than 5M?

You win Yourselve a nice bargain ;)

8 points in 1 season? maybe if he were very very high on 3 skills

He don't need to be high in those skill, just somewhat around x.5 atm. 15 generals is still a lot of training with proper coaches. Also, with tech training in mid season too, he could easily reach 11 in that region.

and i`m sure miaso was way over 54 points when he was 19, beginning of the season...

end of season, but with lots of extras tbh...

Rolandas Miasojedovas, age: 18
value: 1 818 000 zł, wage: 11 500 zł
klub: Texas Hold`em, country: Lietuva
unearthly form, adequate tactical discipline
poor stamina, unsatisfactory keeper
formidable pace, very good defender
outstanding technique, excellent playmaker
outstanding passing, unsatisfactory striker

EDIT: You can see thet Mlekuz had almost the same wage as Miaso had when he was 18...

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but look how he looked like at 19, end of the season probably...

Rolandas Miasojedovas, age: 19

klub: Texas Hold`em, country: Lietuva
value: 3 305 000 zł, wage: 21 300 zł
magical form, solid tactical discipline

weak stamina unsatisfactory keeper
brilliant pace excellent defender
incredible technique excellent playmaker
brilliant passing poor striker

the italian won`t even be close to this...the owner will probably loose a whole season just to train his technique...

i`m training DM for about 8 seasons now, and watch the market every day, and i can say 12,5M for that player is way too much, and it will be hard just to take his money back
he won`t be like miaso, he won`t be like pukk, nor bankert, probably not even like some couple of guys from the romanian squad...he is a very good player, top-notch, but not the best one...

Baldovino Mlekuz, age: 18

club: Sakaryaspor, country: Italia,
value: 316 800 TL, wage: 4 200 TL,
average [5] form, very good [9] tactical discipline,
height: 173 cm, weight: 75.2 kg, BMI: 25.13

poor [3] stamina unsatisfactory [2] keeper
very good [9] pace formidable [10] defender
weak [4] technique excellent [10] playmaker
formidable [11] passing poor [3] striker

the problem is that it's becoming harder to pull great juniors further. he is expensive, but not that much. anyway it's a pity compare him with miaso

well, Miaso played two games per week pretty much all the time which makes him even harder to compare. But Mlekus could surely become 5 x 17, maybe even at 26.

@Spin, is it really so hard to understand that it is not all about money for every user? Nobody is talking that Mlekus should be profitable, but after all, that price was result of a bidwar so someone was obviously ready to pay similar ammount in a first place.

i`m training DM for about 8 seasons now
and I'm training them for 15+ seasons, trying both aspects of it (having stars/farming or profit mod)... and Mlekus is for surely among top 3 potentials pulled with 17 yo I saw in last 5 or 6 seasons.

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actually more between 4 or 5 weeks at that age.... with 0,x levels counted for general training at other skills.....

5 weeks training also = 4x5 gt = 20 gt= 2 trainings, 7 weeks training with one of the skills low age 17, start 18 is a lot of training...

15 m euro is first at age 22-23, at now, he is 10 m worth max 11.... and is overpaid...

overpaid - really who knows. all people thinking striker prices were expensive when 3x superdivine went for 10-11 and now it's payable a 14-15M for a striker. same with 5x divines. we never know

surely fatih don't care about the price if he has another great mids in his squad

but market in sokker doesn't work like that for a long time... mostly because almost no one who has similar players won't even considering selling them at 22-23 so You have to get them while they are still young if You wanna brag Yourselve in this topic. Once again, Mlekus price went so high because of bid war after all if i'm not mistaken, guessing there were few more managers around who didn't have enough in their bank at the time ;)

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still, i´ve seen players who in the end also could end up as 5x17 or at least 3x16, 2x17..... going at even 4-5 m eu, so i believe it is overpaid out from a prospective that you are supposed to win matches and get as high as possible, not having a player who in matches dont give twice as much (and that is in a lower league).... sure if you have a 75+ rating and have 30 m eu..... but i would any day say it is overpaid, since he is not so much better then two-three skills less players...

guessing there were few more managers around who didn't have enough in their bank at the time ;)

yeah, an italian guy...makes sense to overbid when you really want a player from your own country..

well, Miaso played two games per week pretty much all the time which makes him even harder to compare. But Mlekus could surely become 5 x 17, maybe even at 26.

mlekus can play it too, he won`t become not nearly as good as the lithuanian guy
and i don`t know what to say about that...it depends on talent, how many weeks will he lose from injuries, but from my point of view, he can become 5xdivine at 27-28...
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so i believe it is overpaid out from a prospective that you are supposed to win matches and get as high as possible

That's true but You should try to put it into perspective of people who have 50 (or even 100) M stashed in their accounts and don't care about their results. For them player like that is a pure gold and 12.5M seem like a decent price.

mlekus can play it too, he won`t become not nearly as good as the lithuanian guy
and i don`t know what to say about that... i don`t know what to say about that...it depends on talent, how many weeks will he lose from injuries, but from my point of view, he can become 5xdivine at 27-28...

well, talent shouldn't be a problem imo based on his skillsum when he was pulled (probably another piece into explaining his price), but there are definitely some unknown variables. I would place my bet on him becoming 5 x 17 with 27 but still think 26yo is possible if everything connects well. in the end, at least 3 x 18 + 2 x 17 could be managable if trained till 30 and with two games per week.
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