Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

I can't remember seeing more then 5 players comparable to Mlekus over last 6 or 7 seasons.

search deeper, i`m sure there quite a few better than him...

then post at least three of them...

EDIT: find Johnstone somewhere in my stash...

Gordon Johnstone, age: 17 (week 14)
club: UltrasVecchieManiere, country: Scotland,
value: 127 250 €, wage: 875 €,
excellent form, solid tactical discipline,
height: 174 cm, ·weight: 74.718 kg
bookings:
NTDB:
unsatisfactory stamina tragic keeper
solid pace adequate defender
excellent technique adequate playmaker
good passing hopeless striker

and You've said he was ruined with injuries after. Can You admit now how "ordinary" he actually is and agree that there are at least 20 better players of same age out there?

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Jüri Uusberg, age: 17
club: JK Pärnu Vaprus, country: Eesti,
value: 133 250 €, wage: 1 725 €,
good form, unsatisfactory tactical discipline,
height: 168 cm


poor stamina hopeless keeper
good pace average defender
very good technique excellent playmaker
very good passing tragic striker


Ruben Mitchell, age: 17 week 6-7

club: One, country: New Zealand,
value: 231 600 NZ$, wage: 2 960 NZ$,
very good [9] form, tragic [0] tactical discipline,
height: 171 cm

hopeless [1] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
solid [8] pace good [7] defender
very good [9] technique weak [4] playmaker
excellent [10] passing unsatisfactory [2] striker

juri was pulled in weeks 6-7, same for the second one...i`m not sure what sum of skills he had at 18, week 1, but i will find out eventually...

the estonian, i believe, was beter than him at his age , and the mitchell had around 42-43 at 18, beginning of the season...so he`s not that rare
and there were a couple of romanians , but i can`t find them..i`ve searched on forum, but there are a lot of posts..
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Can You admit now how "ordinary" he actually is and agree that there are at least 20 better players of same age out there?

post at least 10 better than him and i will believe you...or at least 3-4 of 22, as you`ve said before...

about Yuri and Mitchell, I have skills for both when they were 18 yo 1 week old, both pretty much in rang of Mlekus and You had to go 7 seasons back.

Jüri Uusberg, age 18
value: 235 500 €
wage: 2 425 €
outstanding form
weak stamina hopeless keeper
very good pace adequate defender
excellent technique excellent playmaker
excellent passing hopeless striker


Ruben Mitchell, age: 18, height: 171 cm
value: 274 800 NZ$, wage: 3 920 NZ$
club: One, country: New Zealand
weak form, solid tactical discipline
hopeless stamina, hopeless keeper
formidable pace, good defender
excellent technique, average playmaker
formidable passing, poor striker

post at least 10 better than him and i will believe you...or at least 3-4 of 22, as you`ve said before...

just ask for current skills of mids played in this match, You should already have 6 or 7 of them. If You really want to make it 10, just ask for skill of MIDS from other U21 WC two seasons ago quarterfinal matches and find out skills (i really don't have time to send tons of sk mails just to prove You obvious) and You should have 15+ of them already (and those would be players who also had to be in top form then to play and from just 8 sokker countries). Quite sure Poland alone have at least 10 23 yo mids better then Johnstone.

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indeed, high value, high mark, but how many of them have defending? :)
mine is 1 week away from formidable, 2 weeks from magical pm...maybe he`s not in top 10, but really close to that..

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45 points Juri, 44 for Mitchell, just like Mlekus...and i`m sure if i dig deeper, i find at least 10-15 in the last 4-5 seasons that were similar with the italian..
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I have almost the same 22y old player ;)

Cowie?

ok, let me post him in a season...he`s 3 weeks behind 69 points...but probably i won`t give him defending at all, i will let him pop from general training this season...and probably in a season he will have 71 points..not bad at all i guess

Cowie is missing 2 points ;) but there is also lot of plus trainings :)

2 points are a lot, at least 10 weeks..so it`s not that similar :)

so for Your player 2 skills are 3 weeks but for others that should be 10 weeks because they must have no extras or some skill lower then others which can still pop full level in 3 weeks? amazing way of thinking... I'm not even sure anymore that You are aware how fast top talented players with full training and top coaches can improve.

well, my player is high on 2 skills, same for dino`s player...so that makes them even regarding the extras, but not the skills...in 3 weeks my player could have 69 points, and his could have 67, so it`s still 10 weeks between them...

I belive the resime of discussion could be: you don`t buy player like Mlekuz for 12M € with intention to make profit, but in certain occasions you can make it, depending on exsclusivity?

amazing way of thinking

i think exactly about you...if you would judge objectively, you wouldn`t post such comments..

I'm not even sure anymore that You are aware how fast top talented players with full training and top coaches can improve.

I`m aware...my scottish is also very talented, 3 weeks and some general trainings to 13 pace at the age of 23...
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anyway, let`s stop this here, you`re the god of sokker, you know everything, sorry to interfere in this discussion...