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Subject: »Sokker Questions/Answers

2011-02-19 18:10:41
It's not an advice, it's a question to stop that ongoing complaining.
2011-02-19 18:11:48
Still, you cant take away people's ability to raise their concerns publicly, clearly the matter generates public interest and people should be allowed to voice their opinions.

If you have so much problems with the game, just stop playing. If you like the game, just stop complaining!!
Yes, I'm sure that's the way to go, I can see how the game is going to improve if we follow your advice, mr. simpleton.
2011-02-19 18:12:40
Don't know about that case very much, but a crusade against Strus as an Admin on Sokker International is not necessary. I agree with you guys that this is not good behavior of someone who should be an example for the community, but this is just not forum stuff. I will discuss it with the other staff members, I promise. Now this discussion here is closed to, if you still want something to say, you can send me an sk-mail.
2011-02-19 18:12:45
Maybe not all Admins are from Poland?

who You would believe: some user who blacklists the staff or to 5 staff member who blacklists that user?? :]
2011-02-19 18:13:44
"Still, you cant take away people's ability to raise their concerns publicly, clearly the matter generates public interest and people should be allowed to voice their opinions."

Hey, it works for the Chinese government. Who needs transparency and fairness when you can just shut everyone up.
2011-02-19 18:14:39
Let say this. I never saw a fair discussion about staffdecissions on these fora. When there is something with a mod or admin, there is no reason anymore it will be directly bashing of all staff.

So i think it is a very wise discission to avoid that. If people can't discuss on a fair base, then no discussion should be alowed on that.
2011-02-19 18:16:03
What is the problem? Point is made, admins have seen it and say they will take care of it. Why start complaining in another topic again? What more do you want them to do? It's just childish to keep on going and going and going, even knowing that the admins have seen it ..

2011-02-19 18:31:44
It's just childish to keep on going and going and going, even knowing that the admins have seen it ..


i would say It's just childish to keep on going and going and going, even knowing that the admins will do nothing about that :P
2011-02-19 18:35:58
Wait and see what happens, that's the only thing you can do at the moment :)
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2011-02-19 18:40:30
Indeed, wait and see. And believe me, it will be discussed.

So again no more words about this topic necessary in here. Send me sk-mail if you still have something to say.
2011-02-19 22:58:06
Saturnino got solved.
Pretty sure this one can get solved too :)
2011-02-20 01:34:50
can i know, who is the boss of this game? can he create a forum just special for complain about staff? so every player who want to complain about staff can go to that forum. and if many people complain, i think they are concern and love to play sokker. i already see 2 other game like sokker. but i surely agree that sokker is the best from all that game. and i love to play sokker. if i give my opinion to sokker, that because i care to sokker. i want sokker can go much better.

every body who is active in this forum, i belive you are also love online.sokker.org. do yo?
2011-02-20 02:02:50
If you have great ideas to improve Sokker, post them in the Forum Bugs / Ideas (en) :) Think that's much better then making a topic everyone can complain in. Complaining doesn't make Sokker any better, good ideas do.

And what do you think when new managers see people only complaining on the forum? Won't help Sokker either I think. Go to your staff if you have something to complain about, they can help you further.
2011-02-20 02:20:59
But then you have to do it also with regular users, when people are bad trashing astaa or the other polish ekstraklassa teams showing little fair play you also need to stop that discussion. I wont approve of that either, but what you are doing is to say everybody has flaws, except the admins.

And why cant we express our concerns public, what is against it.

Especially what is against it that has´nt been against other cases where there has´nt been an admin involved.
2011-02-20 02:27:39
I don't say everybody has flaws, except the admins. I say go to the right persons to complain, not on the forum. It doesn't really improve the athmosphere on Sokker or the numbers of new managers signing in ...
2011-02-20 03:45:20
i understand charles thinking. he want this case keep in secret from newbie. so, internal case, let's solved by internal too. do no need to tell in front of the people. right sir?

now, from adaca, he need a place for everyone to complain about staff which maybe they now or suspect have bad fair play.

from this, maybe the sollution is writing to sk-mail to the boss of this game. then the player is given a special link to see the process of his argument solved. so, newbie don't know the case, and boss, admins and the report people know.

so do not need special forum.