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I emailed on admis@sokker.org on what happened to me and I have not heard from anyone.
when did you write the mail? yesterday? please be patient and wait for an answer, I'm sure it will come after the case has been reviewed.
I emailed on admis@sokker.org on what happened to me and I have not heard from anyone.
when did you write the mail? yesterday? please be patient and wait for an answer, I'm sure it will come after the case has been reviewed.
Mauser, I am aware that this is a desicion done by the MODERATOR OR BY AN ADMINSTRATOR.
But if I had nothing to do with it!! why I am being given the blame??? I emailed the email on Monday and I need help since at this stage my team is in bankrupt and I have been working to build a good team to promote but now i have to sell my best players.
HOW CAN I DEFEND MYSELF??? SHOULDN'T THIS BE INCL IN THE RULES FOR CLUBS LIKE MINE WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO TALK!!!!
But if I had nothing to do with it!! why I am being given the blame??? I emailed the email on Monday and I need help since at this stage my team is in bankrupt and I have been working to build a good team to promote but now i have to sell my best players.
HOW CAN I DEFEND MYSELF??? SHOULDN'T THIS BE INCL IN THE RULES FOR CLUBS LIKE MINE WILL HAVE THE OPTION TO TALK!!!!
I have already spoken with the Maltese MODERATOR AND HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT HE DID NOT DO ANYTHING AND THAT THIS IS REALLY UNFAIR!!!!
SO PLEASE HELP ME since I have been member since 2008 and never cheated......
SO PLEASE HELP ME since I have been member since 2008 and never cheated......
please don't use capitals all the time, that won't help. And I don't believe that the maltese Mod agreed that it was unfair, without knowing the details...
again, please wait for an answer from the admins, I've asked them to do it as soon as possible.
again, please wait for an answer from the admins, I've asked them to do it as soon as possible.
I have already spoken with him on the Maltese Forum..... I already gave the details to him and he told me that he will look into it!!!!...
I am sorry that I used capital letters, but can you imagine that my team got a penalty for someone else mistake or whatever it was!!! I am bankrupt and i really hope that this matter is solved since i will not survice another season with such balance in my books.
I am sorry that I used capital letters, but can you imagine that my team got a penalty for someone else mistake or whatever it was!!! I am bankrupt and i really hope that this matter is solved since i will not survice another season with such balance in my books.
he can't look into it as it's admin stuff, but he has told them to review it too. And a TPA in not a punishment, it's a tool to keep the game fair. Or do you think a user who gets for example 10 Mil from a leaving manager for a crappy player should keep the money and outdistance all the other users who started with him? I guess not :)
once again, we Mods can't help you as we don't have any influence on admin decisions. Please wait for an answer, it will come.
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once again, we Mods can't help you as we don't have any influence on admin decisions. Please wait for an answer, it will come.
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but this is not the situation. 10 MILLION I just dream of having!!! I have a small team. and taking EUR 650k from my bank it distroyed me.
If a club made a bad buy how do I get the blame?? Also the player in question was sold late in the evening and maybe the club who bought him decided to make a big bid!!!!
My thing is that with the money which I got I purchased a player for EUR 1.3Million which he is not worth it cause when i purchased him I noticed that he is already 30 yuears.... therefore should I reclaim the money back???
I made a bad buy and I have to learn from my mistakes!!! Why am I being dealth with such penalty!!!
Thanks still for your comments..... But the admin should review my case cause I really did not do anything wrong.
If a club made a bad buy how do I get the blame?? Also the player in question was sold late in the evening and maybe the club who bought him decided to make a big bid!!!!
My thing is that with the money which I got I purchased a player for EUR 1.3Million which he is not worth it cause when i purchased him I noticed that he is already 30 yuears.... therefore should I reclaim the money back???
I made a bad buy and I have to learn from my mistakes!!! Why am I being dealth with such penalty!!!
Thanks still for your comments..... But the admin should review my case cause I really did not do anything wrong.
I really did not do anything wrong.
that's why I said it's not a punishment but a tool to guarantee ingame fairness. In such cases I can't do more than give the advice: if you notice that you got a lot (!) more for a player than he's worth you should keep the money and not reinvest it immediately, and maybe ask an admin to check the transfer price. And now I think we should let the admins do their job...
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that's why I said it's not a punishment but a tool to guarantee ingame fairness. In such cases I can't do more than give the advice: if you notice that you got a lot (!) more for a player than he's worth you should keep the money and not reinvest it immediately, and maybe ask an admin to check the transfer price. And now I think we should let the admins do their job...
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Not to take any stand in this dispute,but in my opinion certain actions are discouraging users that are in lower division to continue playing this game!
firts and foremost I ask these simple questions
1. was there a bid war betwwen teams for this player?
2. who reported the OPT and why?
3. Was the buyer contacted and asked why he did an OPT? because if the answer to this question is, 'Because I needed that player and i had no time to follow it, and therefore i used the tool offrred by sokker to do my highes bid'; therefore this is not to be considered as an OPT, simply because it was the users decision.
4. Are all transfers of players aged between 16yrs and 18yrs monitored correctly? As it is not the first time young players go for millions, can these price parameters be published to help us not to effect mistakes? I guess not because it the buyers decision to offer aceratin amount of money
5. Extreme case like 10million for a crappy player imo is totally different from this users query and is not to be considered similar at all.
6. Wer there any sk mails between the selling and the buying teams?
7. have they ever effected transfers between them?
I just remarked facts that may reduce sokker users and while for me 600k are worth nothing for a small user they mean team bankrupcy. I suggest that we have to take care of small and new users and not scare them away from the game.
Hope this user will find an answer for his query,although I belive that OPT are to be reported by the same user selling the player to avoid problems and not to use the money before the Admin will give any feedback, this way trouble will be eliminated.
firts and foremost I ask these simple questions
1. was there a bid war betwwen teams for this player?
2. who reported the OPT and why?
3. Was the buyer contacted and asked why he did an OPT? because if the answer to this question is, 'Because I needed that player and i had no time to follow it, and therefore i used the tool offrred by sokker to do my highes bid'; therefore this is not to be considered as an OPT, simply because it was the users decision.
4. Are all transfers of players aged between 16yrs and 18yrs monitored correctly? As it is not the first time young players go for millions, can these price parameters be published to help us not to effect mistakes? I guess not because it the buyers decision to offer aceratin amount of money
5. Extreme case like 10million for a crappy player imo is totally different from this users query and is not to be considered similar at all.
6. Wer there any sk mails between the selling and the buying teams?
7. have they ever effected transfers between them?
I just remarked facts that may reduce sokker users and while for me 600k are worth nothing for a small user they mean team bankrupcy. I suggest that we have to take care of small and new users and not scare them away from the game.
Hope this user will find an answer for his query,although I belive that OPT are to be reported by the same user selling the player to avoid problems and not to use the money before the Admin will give any feedback, this way trouble will be eliminated.
Thanks Ramonmercieca026, I am sure that your experience is much more then mine in sokker.org, and your words mean alot to me, due to the fact that at least a user which more then 5 years in this game is aware of what we small users are going trough
this case is a matter between staff and il-williams.
please, stop the discussion here.
please, stop the discussion here.
on the 04-12-2010 for unknow reasons a user had bid 1.7mill on this player (Alexander Fleri Soler) who was for sale from my team who imo had a selling value of 1k maximum.
I had my attention drawn about this opt by other Maltese users and it was myself who reported the fact. From further investigations carried out it emerged that same user who was leaving the game tried to harm old users by OPT and it was also discovered that in the previous days same had effected other OPT with maltese users, who eventually did not report this OPT and had them arranged as the admin noticed them.
I ecourage everyone to report any OPT because if the other users who had OPT before me had reported the fact prior i had reported it I would have not been involved as the team would have been blocked before!!
Admin are doing their work, but I still believe that not all cases are similar, and are to investigated with different measures
I had my attention drawn about this opt by other Maltese users and it was myself who reported the fact. From further investigations carried out it emerged that same user who was leaving the game tried to harm old users by OPT and it was also discovered that in the previous days same had effected other OPT with maltese users, who eventually did not report this OPT and had them arranged as the admin noticed them.
I ecourage everyone to report any OPT because if the other users who had OPT before me had reported the fact prior i had reported it I would have not been involved as the team would have been blocked before!!
Admin are doing their work, but I still believe that not all cases are similar, and are to investigated with different measures
Excuse my manners and if I am going to sound a bit harsh in what I am going to say, but your intervention left me breathless!
This is a democratic community in sokker, based on staff monitoring facts and things, elections to decide NT coaches, moderators to moderate things in the forum etc...
Why should we stop discussing and learining from each other?
Does the Admin has anything to hide about this case? (I do not think so!)
Therefore what is the reason why we cannot discuss, ask and get answeres in a forum titled Sokker questions/Answer?
imo this small Maltese user did a mistake if he did not report an OPT, but to take care of small and new users which are the future of tomorrow's sokker world,some cases are to be dealth with more moderatly to keep more active users!
This is a democratic community in sokker, based on staff monitoring facts and things, elections to decide NT coaches, moderators to moderate things in the forum etc...
Why should we stop discussing and learining from each other?
Does the Admin has anything to hide about this case? (I do not think so!)
Therefore what is the reason why we cannot discuss, ask and get answeres in a forum titled Sokker questions/Answer?
imo this small Maltese user did a mistake if he did not report an OPT, but to take care of small and new users which are the future of tomorrow's sokker world,some cases are to be dealth with more moderatly to keep more active users!
what I meant was:
8. Decisions of the Moderators and Administrators should not be discussed publicly in the forums, news articles, etc. In the case you need more information about a decision or do not agree with it you could ask more information or a review using the sk-mail of the Moderator (or Administrator). In case you still disagree with a decision you could ask a final review of the case to another Moderator or Administrator by sending him a sk-mail or by sending an email to admins@sokker.org
as I said - this is a case between us and il-wiliams.
8. Decisions of the Moderators and Administrators should not be discussed publicly in the forums, news articles, etc. In the case you need more information about a decision or do not agree with it you could ask more information or a review using the sk-mail of the Moderator (or Administrator). In case you still disagree with a decision you could ask a final review of the case to another Moderator or Administrator by sending him a sk-mail or by sending an email to admins@sokker.org
as I said - this is a case between us and il-wiliams.
Hi Maureen,
I can confirm that this is being dealth between sokker.org and myself.
The Maltese users are just showing some support due to the fact that they know me and they are aware that I never cheated.
For some clubs EUR 300k are nothing but for me it's a bankrupt scenario, and I repeat since I have played this game I have never done anything to cheat or else..
Some 5 seasons ago I also reported that a Maltese team bidded on one of my players which for me he was overbidded and not to be given fines or penalty... I think that I did this in the interest of the game and now to get such a harsh judgement where I always played fair is too harsh...
These users are just saying such things since I am not the expert one in these games
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I can confirm that this is being dealth between sokker.org and myself.
The Maltese users are just showing some support due to the fact that they know me and they are aware that I never cheated.
For some clubs EUR 300k are nothing but for me it's a bankrupt scenario, and I repeat since I have played this game I have never done anything to cheat or else..
Some 5 seasons ago I also reported that a Maltese team bidded on one of my players which for me he was overbidded and not to be given fines or penalty... I think that I did this in the interest of the game and now to get such a harsh judgement where I always played fair is too harsh...
These users are just saying such things since I am not the expert one in these games
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