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Subject: »Sokker Questions/Answers

2011-12-08 10:45:06
The graph just shows the average pops that appear in the data collection together with a regression line. If you want to see the weeks for a pop for the most talented players you should look at the data itself below all those statistics. You will find a 3-week pop to outstanding pace there.
2011-12-08 10:49:17
that long german list ? yea i get it now. thanks for explaining.
2011-12-08 11:15:15
IMO,In any case, there are always sometime when the pace is trained with same effect as other skills .
maybe 16yo,maybe 21yo...
2011-12-08 11:17:53
yes, you are right, it happens when junior is still in academy :>
2011-12-08 11:30:29
That might be incorrect also :D but we'll never know. It makes no sense that pace can be trained equally in some sort of period.

Edit: equally with other skills.
(edited)
2011-12-08 17:23:13
imo at 18 the player takes the same time to pop as his talent to outstanding in tech, passing, pm, defender

so talent 3 from formid-outstanding = 3 weeks at 18.

pace is usually around 25% longer. i guess it would be theoretically possible for 2 week pops in tech, pm passing. if the player was 10.99 and trained. so he popped to formiddable and was 11.33

then with 2 trainings of 0.335 each or whatever, he increases to exactly outstanding.

i have never seen a 2 week to outstanding graph that i can recall
2011-12-08 17:50:49
That was Miasojedovas :) 2 week to outstanding tech at 17yo
2011-12-08 17:55:59
he wasnt even max talent, he was 3.2 or 3.3 or something in ys
2011-12-08 17:57:54
So thats even better to hear :) still hard to understand when you have talent 4 or talent 3.2 or so. can you explain me WHEN exactly its 1 training difference between such talents ? which year and what skill ? how to understand those talents?
2011-12-08 19:20:08
usually its hard to see at lower levels.
once you get to higher skills. i.e if you consider it in maths diff between talent 3 and talent 4 is talent 4 is 33% higher meaning it takes 33% longer for pops.

so if a talent 3 player took 5 weeks to magical tech, then a talent 4 wud take 5x1.33 = 6.65 weeks

its a pretty major difference. high talents are really visible for mids, who need them as general training takes a lot less time for pops so players increase raipdly in all skills
2011-12-08 19:21:57
yea thanks. too bad thats the only way to know the talent. at lower ages and 2-4 week pops its almost impossible to calculate.
2011-12-08 20:23:18
indeed. i have a few close to max talent players at the moment i think.

its weird i had a guy was 4 week to incredible pace at 19, but was 3 to very good tech and now 3 to excellent also age 20. but thats the difference between playing 2 games in a week compared to just friendlies i reckon.
2011-12-09 20:56:20
does a friendly game influence the supporters mood?
2011-12-09 20:57:40
As far as i know it doesnt. only rating :)
2011-12-09 20:58:08
a bit, it does.
2011-12-09 21:06:15
but that is connected to the rating ? i remember having max mood and losing 10-0 , 20-0 on friendlies or so and didnt notice any change. no changes in 6 seasons for me after friendlies.