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You can see anything in those numbers without knowing the conditions (opponent, fan-mood, weather). The second game could just have been much more attractive than the first one, and it is not clear if you lost many many supporters in the second game who would have gone to the seats, if you had set a lower bench-price.

If you thinks it does not prove anything it is ok with me. I won't put more efforts in this discussion.

You can do with this info what you want, if you think it is all wothless it is totally fine with me :)

I do not think it is worthless and I appreciate this discussion, since I am not sure how exactly the supporter-attendance works. I just think it is hard to find out with one game and with the random involved it is even hard to see if you look at many games. I never said you were wrong, btw, so you see I'm not sure ;)

If you have the time and the money it is realy not hard to test.
i was too lazy to change the prices over and over.

i saw that there was profit in normal games. (when i got the benches sold out) but when i did ask too much for the benches and they were not sold out it sometimes cost me over 200.000.
In friendlies the income dropped very hard, because i never sold out that 7000 benches (as far as i remember i never set the price on 25 cent)
So in friendlies (i always had high fanmood those days) i always get less visitors than before and after.
In normal matches i alway get normal attendance when the benchers were sold out and way way less visitors when not.

(i have and had all seats under roof and is was against high and low teams)

But as i said, it is simply to test in around a season. just use a side with around 8% of the normal attendance. And then use matches with normal circumstances. and look what happen.... i think in half a season you see exactely what i said.

benches sold out? normal sum of visitors, not sold out much less visitors, even with nice weather and against a good mood opponent with much supporters.

8% can sold out for around 25 euro against good opponents and good fanmood. But it is the risky sum :) i liked more around 18-20 euro. but as i said i stopped because i was too lazy to adjust it for every match... and you need that to make profit out of this strategie. one mistake and you lose a lot.

/edit: in your case i would change this corner: 3250

it is much harder to make mistakes with a smaller amount of benches. So you have almost realy to decide to have a bad attendance in a normal match (asking prices of 40 euro maybe is not enough to let the people not buy a ticket :) )
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/edit2: maybe now i think about it... then i used 7000 benches that was too much, but i also have a 3500 corner... that should work. I think i will change it now :D
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That is just an example of 'If their favorite place is sold out they are likely to buy ticket for a superior stand but they will refuse to go to an inferior stand.' (rules) with numbers, isn't it? It doesn't consider ticket prices.

If you look only at his explanation, yes, but if you read the whole topic you can see some more numbers and prices.

what about my attempt to make more supporters come and get more income... i have 500 terraces section at 25 cent..... the reason is as i read the rules more supporters come if they know they have their preffered seat avaiveble... so the ones wanting terraces come in big number but is sold out quick, and then upgrading to more expensive seats.... since noone will downgrade their seat i dont lose them who want benches or seats to get cheaper places..... you think this is an good idea??

I do not think so, but i can not prove it. I think you will sell it out ofcourse, but there will not more for the other seats.

but is it so, that even though there are no terraces alle the supporters that want that type then can choose to take more expensive seat... or is the numbers wanting to attend game not influenced by prices and which sections there are, but make the choice if they will pay when "standing outside stadium" ... :)

prices have infleunce on the atendance, but i worked with a lot of different prices in matches for same kind of matches (once i played a match with a section for 25 cent and another (same kind) section for 250 euro.)
I think it only matters that a kind of seats is sold out. After the sold out the price for the sold out kind of seats does not matter anymore, then only matters the prices of the more expensive seats.

if you use for that kind of seats differents prices you still see the effect of the sold out kind of seats on all sections, even with different prices.

I did not mention a difference with normal or high prices with that 7000 benches section. sold out was enough.

I'm gonna have to interupt that topic. I have a question. My player refuses to leave the club cause of that transfer protection so if i let him play in a match for like 20 minutes would it still count as a match ? or minutes make difference.

it's minutes-based, so 20 min might be enough, but after 90 min you've better chances to be able to sell him

What about player to put on tl limit in 2 weeks ? one guy told me that i could place a player after that day so he must know what is the limit for players to put on TL. maybe 10 players for 2 weeks ? if less than i can put him if more than he refuses?

it's random, as in all sokker.

once, a player refused to go on TL around the afternoon. I tried again in the evening, he wanted to go on TL... no match played that day...

Maybe the time was linked. I will try that :) but also looks random as one of my players refused to go after 6 played matches.

It's linked to number.Today I tried a player who refused to go for a while and he accepted but i didn't place him.Now I put other player and try to put him - he refuses.I cancel that player and then he accepts again :)

i think form is a decider also... high player form = longer time before you can resell