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Jumps in 1 training from 10 to 11 on any real skill on the age of 18 or above are impossible. But from youth players i have seen prove for that. Even on Pace if I remember corectly.

besides that, training is very predictable if you know talent.

example, (based on a formula i will not give, so if you won't believe without that, no problem ;) )
for an 18 year old, with unearthly coach on pace, 3 briliant/migical assistants, 1 official match per week
it takes 3 training and 4 general training for a 1.0 full pop pace training from excelent to formidable.

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Well, this is why i'm asking, I bought a junior that was pulled out from divine, in week 1, at 18 yo, that increased in pace (10-11) from 1 training + 1 residual training (3 unearthly assistants).

I trained many juniors from my school that had on at least one skill, 10, to get those skills up, and then sell them, but I have never seen a junior that increased so fast after level 10, and as I said, I had junior school for ~ 15 seasons.

Thus I deduce that the player must have the max. talent, or juniors with individual skills over 10.00 are very rare. And I don't see any reason why in 15 seasons (the amount of time I had junior school with unearthly coach) I had only 1 junior that increased so fast from 10-11.

So this is why I think that the max value must be .00 or .99.
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If he came out devine...(how many skillpoint did he had?) you can be sure he is very very talented. And yes maybe max talented.

because max 34 weeks training, at least 10 skills up... so yes.

but as i said, even with max talent he can not jump that fast from 10.0.
Your own player proves 10.0 is not the case.

10.99 could still be, bu as youy said we should have seen some cases of jump at first training at general. We never did... so it could be, but doubt it.
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Not only from 1 training, 1 training and 1 residual training (from sum 16 of my assistants).

I have players that increased from 10-11 from 2 trainings. So basically 1 training + 1 residual can be the max. talent only if the max. value is 10.00.

Based on the formula: sum of all skills/3.2, the player was pulled from 17.8125.

So as we agreed, it cannot be 10.87-.90, because we have never seen any junior that increased only from 1 residual training to 11.

There are only few players in the history of sokker that reached + 5 x divine at ~27-28 y., but I doubt that they reached that level with talent 3.
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I have players that increased from 10-11 from 2 trainings.

9 10 10 11? at the age of 18? with only 1 match per week? (still could be 9.99, 10.34, 10.67, 11.01.... but even then it would be very good) so no other general trainings.

do you have a screen of that?

But even if you have such a player, than still it is around 3 weeks training, visual 2, but realy 3, a lot more then 1.1.

(do you have 3*16 assistants, at general skill? because assistants only work with general skill, not with pace skill or whatsover)

I have been playing sokker since 2007, I know how assistants work.

I will continue training him at the same skill, let's see how it will evolve, i'm really curious since I don't belive that a player can be high on level 10 after he is pulled out from school. (Since I don't see any reason why they are so rare if they can be high on level 10),

Btw, just for clearance, I used.00 amd .99 just to highlight the min. and max., as fictive numbers.

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9 10 10 11? at the age of 18? with only 1 match per week?

Is it so uncommon? I have a player with that pace talent, but as far as i remember, it happened before

talent

Btw, just for clearance, you've told us on the Romanian forum that after many years of research you've discovered a player with talent 1 :) Hope that wybo's explanations are enough to realize that talent 1 does not exist and that you cannot determine a player's talent after only one pop. Anyways, he must be a very talented player if he came out divine.

that player has 9 10 10 10 11, not 9 10 10 11. What you showed is not unusual indeed. (seems good ofcourse, but like in my earlier example this does not say 3 weeks, but 3 to 4 weeks, because the last 9 could be extremely high and the first 11 could be extremely low :) )


/edit that is also the reason why it is often so hard to tell if a player is talented after just 1 full pop.
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Right, my bad, i thought you were saying 9-10-10-10-11. I have never seen 9-10-10-1, true.

" that talent 1 does not exist"

Right. But a question about it. Talent is a youth number. the time between the different pops when in youth. Do you (Romanian forumusers) also call the trainingpops talent?

So when i see a Romaian player on the transferlist and the owner says talent 3.5, it can mean youth talent, but also the time it cost that passing jumped from 4 to 5 (example)?
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Btw, just for clearance, you've told us on the Romanian forum that after many years of research you've discovered a player with talent 1 :)

I have never said that, just copy and paste it so you can refresh my memory. I have neved done a research about players talent.

So when i see a Romaian player on the transferlist and the owner says talent 3.5, it can mean youth talent, but also the time it cost that passing jumped from 4 to 5 (example)?

Well, normally, the owner says 3.5 in junior school.
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Ok, then i will mail the owners if it only says 'talent 3.5' :)

Thanks

About our current topic, I do not belive in talent 3 as the best talent from 10-11, since i had players with better talent. I have many talented players in my team.

Well, just as a landmark, I do not keep players in my team for a long period if they don't show this type of talent, at least. I do not pay ~ 240 000 Eur/week for talent >3 till level 12.




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This one looks nice, but did you have one with talent 2 from 10to11?

on pace ;)