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Subject: »Sokker Questions/Answers

2015-04-04 21:07:20
How and when are national team players released from bot team?
Had a player short while ago that was released, but have no idea how this happened and now I got 2 at U21 Denmark.

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2015-04-04 22:26:55
When the new user take control over this bot team then this player is going on TL if he played one match in NT.
2015-04-05 09:58:14
guys help here, is it wrong to play young players twice a week i.e league and friendly or play them league only? which is best
2015-04-05 10:03:23
When the new user take control over this bot team then this player is going on TL if he played one match in NT.

Okay.... Thanks. :-)

Don`t understand, why The Players is`t going on TL, when The team are going bot.
There can be written thick books about what I do not understand in Sokker. :-)
2015-04-05 10:18:54
@gormahia
guys help here, is it wrong to play young players twice a week i.e league and friendly or play them league only? which is best

More efficient for his development? Read the following and you will get your answer.

A player who plays only 1 full league game gains 90% training (or for easier understanding 90 TM - Training Minutes)
A player who plays only 1 full friendly gets 75 TM.
A player who play full friendly and league game gets arround 100 TM. (Only...)

Full league game (90 TM) and 20 minutes friendly (it´s arround 8 and 15 TM) gets arround 100 TM.
Full friendly (75 TM) and 30 minutes of league game (it´s arround 20 and 30 TM) gets arround 100 TM.

This means, league game gives 20% more training than only friendly. Combination of both gives about 30% more than only friendly.

And now the time to get your answer.... Hello, it should be your answer :) why are you still reading? You have the facts, make your decisions :)
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2015-04-05 10:39:20
Because the money won't be recycled.

Money isn't recycled, weekly a lot of new money enters the game because of ticket and sponsor income.

So money also needs to be taken out the game to prevent inflation, because inflation makes it even more difficult for new managers to become competitive. Prices go up, but start money, gaining supporters and sponsor money, etc, isn't. This means the gap new managers have to overcome can only increase if too much money enters the game.

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2015-04-05 10:40:29
@jimdrago78
very sad that some wrong rules never change (Poland doesnt have problem with so many good young players, small countries have big problem)..

Rules are rules. They can´t be wrong or right. The only thing that can be wrong (or right) is the mind.. It´s a matter of perspective.
I accepted the rules as they are and adjusted my actions to be more efficient for reaching my targets.

The matter with young players getting lost by bot teams does not exist as a problem for Pilipinas. Every 2 days the transfer list is checked and the young players get in the ntdb. If they are prospects, they get some minutes in the U21. If their team becomes a bot, they get transfer listed. It happened in 4 cases in the last 3 seasons.

The other matter about small countries and number of good players can perhaps also been solved. It´s my project, running with Pilipinas.
I share my knowloedge with the users. The target is to have 11 players who get the qualification next season for the WC. At the moment, clubs in Pilipinas train more efficient than before 3 seasons and they evaluate more carefully the young players.
The current U21 is about 10% stronger than the U21 before 2 seasons.
2015-04-05 11:11:07
Rules are rules. They can´t be wrong or right. The only thing that can be wrong (or right) is the mind..

both mind and rules can be wrong or right , nobody or nothing is perfect(sokker has mistakes who need fixing) !!!! thats why we have to change and become better ....

You are many hours every day in sokker , this is not easy or desirable from everyone (most have bored,tired with long occupation with sokker) , i have other more interesting-essentially things to do....but i like when the little time i am in to watch it guided in better direction...

what u write is not wrong but needs time and some willing people to give their time for this...
it is very nice to see people with such passion for sokker these days like u (especially when creators dont care making it better) !!! keep on with good job...
2015-04-05 11:49:46
You call them "mistakes" or you use the word "wrong", I use the word "disfunctionalities".
There are some disfunctionalities. The only thing, in these cases, to be done is to propose to the devs something more functional. As you know the devs are satisfied with their product and they don´t make changes anymore.
It´s your decision and mine, if we accept it or not, as it is.
For me there are only 2 options. One is to play and have fun. The other one is: if no fun, no game.
2015-04-05 12:17:35
many things have proposed , nothing happened , maybe it is difficult (always it is more difficult to become better than stay the same ) and this as a result , less sokker players every season .. if they are satisfied as u say , for me are lazy , so i am plus user , when the time comes to pay again , i will be lazy to do it ...
i accept it as it is but i dont like it so much(i lost big part of interest) and the reason is stagnation ... everything and everyone cant become better but for sure trying it for me is well accepted ...
2015-04-05 12:30:14
Percentages Tsolias presented are a guess. Im sure they are higher.

1 game per week is enough for good training. Official matches do give slightly more training and experience than friendlies.
2015-04-05 12:44:25
about the NT players in a bot team, i do experienced my self. i was an U21 NT manager for 4 seasons and it's break my heart when the players that supposedly become a senior NT prospect didn't get any serious training when their team become a BOT for so many years and have to 'retired' from sokker world just like that when their team finally get taken over, especially when they are around 22-24 year old as they are barely good enough to make the 40 men NT squad list. it's all because the rule stated that for them to be in the TL they must be included in the NT squad.

for a middle and small class country, any decent player is really valuable
2015-04-05 14:18:21
I am also sure, but "to be sure" is subjective.
Objective can be the numbers. I collected some numbers (TM of my players in pace training for the last 3 seasons). The numbers I collected show it is not higher, it is not lower, it is as I described.
2015-04-05 14:53:22
You are laughable.

I was comparing players who played NT+league(100%) vs only friendly and Im sure that friendly is more than 75%.

You are the one selling your opinion as it was confirmed by developers...
2015-04-05 15:21:50
gormahia never spoke of NT-games. You have not understand what we discuss.

Anyway, you had the chance to show us some weird aspects of your personality.
2015-04-05 17:59:51
You totally pulled these numbers out of your ass. The devs have never stated how much training a player receives for each minute played and presenting these figures as a fact is laughable.

You claim that players who only play friendlies receive 75% of the training that players which play 2 games a week receive. That means that a player who plays friendly + NT U21 regularly develops 33% faster than a player who only plays friendlies. That's absolutely absurd.