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Subject: Is European Union good or bad thing?
NATO = USA
USA = WAR
UE is useless in this field... sorry if again I'm against it...
USA = WAR
UE is useless in this field... sorry if again I'm against it...
Without USA you should be still under generralismo, alternatively under Soviet control.
I am not saying that they have done all perfectly, but at least they tried to do something, instead of Franco-German talking.
USA is sovereign state, NATO is a system of collective defence.
I am not saying that they have done all perfectly, but at least they tried to do something, instead of Franco-German talking.
USA is sovereign state, NATO is a system of collective defence.
i dont understand if most of checz people thinks like you why did your goverment wanted to join the EU, if you dont want to be i prefer that you where out before than being in and making trouble
Exactly... what I'm trying to say from the beginning... but probably is not easily understendable is that most of the last countries that just joined EU are far too much friend with the USA...
Anthing USA decides those country are agree with it... UE became weaker after the entry of those countries...
@ Red. You speak like my grandfather that thinks that we have to be thankful forever with USA... sorry but the war is finished 60 years ago... we have been thankful enough...
alternatively under Soviet control
Actually I'm nostalgic of that period!...
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Anthing USA decides those country are agree with it... UE became weaker after the entry of those countries...
@ Red. You speak like my grandfather that thinks that we have to be thankful forever with USA... sorry but the war is finished 60 years ago... we have been thankful enough...
alternatively under Soviet control
Actually I'm nostalgic of that period!...
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hey, this is just Red's opinion, he doesn't rapresent the majority of czech people, otherwise they won't be in eu now
Not most of Czech people are smart;)
I think that be proamerican and be proeuropean should not be opposition. Todays Europe and USA are based on same elementals, but europe isnt able to defend them. Why join? Because without participation in we cant change it. Its similiar as why vote when government is bad...
I think that be proamerican and be proeuropean should not be opposition. Todays Europe and USA are based on same elementals, but europe isnt able to defend them. Why join? Because without participation in we cant change it. Its similiar as why vote when government is bad...
if europe should defend his elementals there is not other way that be joined
other things are if the comisison or the parlament, who should get more power, in what they can decide..
but without union we will be weak
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other things are if the comisison or the parlament, who should get more power, in what they can decide..
but without union we will be weak
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You are right, now about 60 percents oppose missile defence in Poland and Czech republic.
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"Exactly... what I'm trying to say from the beginning... but probably is not easily understendable is that most of the last countries that just joined EU are far too much friend with the USA...
Anthing USA decides those country are agree with it... UE became weaker after the entry of those countries...
@ Red. You speak like my grandfather that thinks that we have to be thankful forever with USA... sorry but the war is finished 60 years ago... we have been thankful enough...
alternatively under Soviet control
Actually I'm nostalgic of that period!..."
Omg, how funny. It are not only the new countries which are pro-America. The Netherlands and the United Kingdom, for example, are also pro-America. And what's the problem? We have had good relationships for decades and we are allies of each other. That means that you help each other. That America is war is bullshit. In the Netherlands America was peace in '45, that has not really changed. The war also did not end 60 years ago. I hope you know what the Marshall plan was and what it did for people.
For some people the war ended much later. For my grandfather the war ended a couple of years ago when he died.
Do you know how silly you sound when you're saying that some other country is pro-America and you aren't that they would be easily corruptable.
Italy is definitely the country which is the easiest to corrupt in the EU. Or do I need to tell something about the Banca Antonveneta?
Anthing USA decides those country are agree with it... UE became weaker after the entry of those countries...
@ Red. You speak like my grandfather that thinks that we have to be thankful forever with USA... sorry but the war is finished 60 years ago... we have been thankful enough...
alternatively under Soviet control
Actually I'm nostalgic of that period!..."
Omg, how funny. It are not only the new countries which are pro-America. The Netherlands and the United Kingdom, for example, are also pro-America. And what's the problem? We have had good relationships for decades and we are allies of each other. That means that you help each other. That America is war is bullshit. In the Netherlands America was peace in '45, that has not really changed. The war also did not end 60 years ago. I hope you know what the Marshall plan was and what it did for people.
For some people the war ended much later. For my grandfather the war ended a couple of years ago when he died.
Do you know how silly you sound when you're saying that some other country is pro-America and you aren't that they would be easily corruptable.
Italy is definitely the country which is the easiest to corrupt in the EU. Or do I need to tell something about the Banca Antonveneta?
How I said, for defence we have NATO.
but you say too than being proamerican and proeuropean shouldnt be an apposition, so?
but you say too than being proamerican and proeuropean shouldnt be an apposition, so?
"You speak like my grandfather that thinks that we have to be thankful forever with USA... sorry but the war is finished 60 years ago... we have been thankful enough..."
Europe should be red without others 40 years of participation USA in European affairs. Their stabilization made conditions to create EU. I have not some Munich complex to avoid trust in EU democracies, its more about fact that USA is strongest democratic nation in the world. The american doctrines and governments are changing, some are bad, some are good but definately the mentioned previous fact is stable.
Europe should be red without others 40 years of participation USA in European affairs. Their stabilization made conditions to create EU. I have not some Munich complex to avoid trust in EU democracies, its more about fact that USA is strongest democratic nation in the world. The american doctrines and governments are changing, some are bad, some are good but definately the mentioned previous fact is stable.