Subject: »Climate Change and Global Warming

Thanks for correcting me, I wasn't really that sure about the nuclear plants. As for the water power plants, I allready saw one working exactly that way. Pretty ugly, but still useful.

I dont believe in global warming.

It's not a matter or believing anymore.... You are neglecting it probably, that is a better description.

Ow well, nothing will change as long as nothing really really serious happens in a few of the world's biggest and richest countries. Thus probably another 30years or so.

I don't care anymore. Nothing i can do to change it anyways.

I dont believe in global warming.

It's not a believe, it's science! The question isn't if, but why it's happening ... Starting with I don't believe is almost the dumbest comment!

I don't care anymore. Nothing i can do to change it anyways.

You also don't vote? That 1 little vote of yours won't make the difference, right ... ? ;)

I vote for my ideology ... And there are 7 billion people ...

Oke, but I don't think that wasn't the point, he wrote I don't care ANYMORE, and that he can't change anything. Everyone can change something, and the more people are willing to do so, the more will change. 1 vote doesn't make someone president, a lot of votes does.

Of course a lot has to change before things are right again, but doing nothing won't help at all.
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This is the prisoner's dilemma, so ...

How to comment on ClimateGate: a handy reference guide

Nov 29th, 2009 by CAM

If you have just learned that global warming was all a massive fraud being perpetuated by Commie scientists in East Angular, your blood is all angried up and you can’t wait to just jump right in and start SHOUTING about it - but don’t quite know where to start – then this post is for you!

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First, choose your personality type. You are:

…all rogue n’ mavericky:

Global warming is nothing but a [plot/conspiracy/giant lie] by [Big Government, Big Green and Big Business / the trillion dollar wind power industry / Big Energy / Al Gore] to [give all power to the UN Climatocrats / create a one world government / tax the US into bankruptcy / force you to bow down to its agenda of enforced austerity / enrich Al Gore].

These emails just go to show what a [scam / con / fraud / giant Ponzi scheme] global warming really is.

We need to stop [the “cap and kill” law / mortgaging our children’s futures on pseudoscience / the Socialist Agenda] before the [eco-fascists / warlarmists / greentards] [tax us into the stone age / exploit us like the third world peasants they want us to become / destroy our liberty / force us into solar powered death camps].

[AGW is a myth / There is no Mann-made global warming / the Greenhouse Effect is just a theory, not a fact]. Get over it.


…some twit that went to a posh school and now writes a blog (*):

This is the end of the [IPCC-endorsed AGW scam / Al Gore’s great big AGW conspiracy].

Climategate is [the game changer that will make people listen / the end of the Al Gore-approved AGW narrative].

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We know it’s all a crock and we’re not going to take it.

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This is our Berlin Wall moment! They can’t stop us now!

…just terribly concerned about what it all means for science:

I’m a [scientist / engineer / fully qualified blogger] and I have never seen [naughtiness / misconduct / outright lying and fraud] like this in all my years of [science / professional experience / blogging].

These so-called scientists’ exclusion of alternative views and opinions is nothing less than [Marxist state censorship / suppression of dissent / Lysenkoism] and is not what science is all about.

These [frauds / white-coated Eichmanns / con-men who hijacked science to predict a looming Armageddon unless we do exactly what they say] should [be censored / resign / be fired and stripped of their titles so they never get employment again /be Rochambeau’d].

We should throw out [the hockey stick / all of their research / all ground based temperature data / all the Paleoclimate reconstructions / the IPCC reports] and just start over on climate science from a clean slate.

Science should be open and transparent. They need to release all of their [code / emails / raw data / home address and teenage daughters' cellphone number] so we can see for ourselves before we [destroy our economy / give trillions of dollars directly to Al Gore] based on a lie.

…absolutely convinced of media bias everywhere:

ClimateGate proves that global warming is: [dead / a fraud / the greatest lie ever perpetuated on the American people], but the [liberal / left wing / eco-shill / Libtard-MSM] media are [covering it up / hiding the truth / in full panic stricken media blackout mode].

Only [Fox News / The Daily Mail / The (insert your own courageous national media outlet here)] are covering this story. Hmm.

Global warming [alarmism / hysteria] is all about [money / power / a massive UN sponsored tax grab]. Just Google [Michael Crichton / (insert name of some blogger you like here)].


source:
http://carbonfixated.com/how-to-comment-on-climategate-a-handy-reference-guide/

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jossgarman.com - Climate denial activists’ parallel to anti-relativity movement of 1920s (link)

Quote Albert Einstein
“This world is a strange madhouse. Currently, every coachman and every waiter is debating whether relativity theory is correct. Belief in this matter depends on political party affiliation.”

This is an interesting article to read, specially for those who don't believe in scientific facts!

I dont believe in global warming.

It's not a believe, it's science! The question isn't if, but why it's happening ... Starting with I don't believe is almost the dumbest comment!

There aren´t consistent data from the past decades.

The data set used in 60´s and 70´s just aren´t the same as used in 90´s and 2000´s.

I still don´t believe in global warming, and I think it is the biggest scientific fraud in history.

The data set used in 60´s and 70´s just aren´t the same as used in 90´s and 2000´s.

and You think that thousands of climatologist didn't know about that and didn't found any methods to validate all available datasets?

if yes, and You are able to justify Your suspicion, You have an unique chance to overturn the world scientific consensus!!! :D

don't wait any minute longer. The Noble Prize waiting for you! lol

bu You need to start from for example this paper: Global Trends of Measured Surface Air Temperature/1987_Hansen_Lebedeff.pdf

as You can see, climatologists are wrong atleast since 1987! ;)

it's far before Al Gore, IPCC, Kyoto protocol and many other "fraud activieties" :P

Learn more before you can post something useful in this topic. You can think whatever you want but probably it's based on absolutely nothing because of the lack of knowledge ...
If I'm wrong, show me some links or other info why you think this is all a fraud. You're saying you know it better then those who studied for this, so tell me, what kind of environmental study do you do to say you know it better then those people at universities.

Learn more before you can post something useful in this topic

a lot of people share his opinion, so i cannot find a reason why he shouldn't have posted in this topic..., mainly because it's adressed to every person who wants to take part in it. He may not be right, but at least accept that this is not a scientific conference.

You mean that believing in global warming is an act of faith?

I agree with Charles, global warming is a scientific theory. Just telling you don't believe in global warming without giving NO argument won't make the discussion progress.

@every one: if you answer this thread, cite some arguments, references, etc. Giving no arguments just isn't fair, and is a proof of ignorance.