Subject: United States: Election Time

OK, and what would you say to the women who have actually been through such horrors and they actually decided to have their children? I've seen testimonies of women that were raped in Croatian war for freedom whose loving children are now happy grown-ups. They all say that the decision to keep their baby helped them greatly to overcome what happened to them and eventually forgive.

Maybe you can call some of these women and describe this same creative scene to them and explain to her in detail how horrible it is that she managed to be stronger than that. The only reason why you think that your description of such horrible scene is impressive is because you're afraid that such horrible event would be stronger than yourself. You're probably right. It takes a lot of faith and courage to overcome such horrible events. But if you perceive life as eternal, that becomes a much easier task.

The matter, i think , it's you want always decide for these women. In one or in other way. Let's them have a choice, their choice, their women choice.

It's their own choice. If they want to keep the child and this helps them to forget the horror, then that's fine.

But you cannot oblige them to keep the child, that's immoral (imo). Not every person is the same and for some this will only make the past harder to deal with.

If you don't respect someone else's opinion, then you're not worthy of going in discussion with.

I respect all people and not all opinions. Not all opinions are worth to be respected while all people are. And that is the right thing to do. And saying that does not mean that I try to behave like a morally superior person. It only means that I am better informed.

Don't you think a woman is in the better place to decide about a eventually future baby?
Her eventually future baby!
Better than a man, a rapist, a religious .. God isn't a man?

But those who want to keep these babies, i don't come to say to her : hey bitches !! PLease abort... They choose to keep them... Good for her... But all those women who don't want to keep those horror related must have the right to abort also... You see, i'm tolerant and you are not...

For the rest of your speech... I will stop here... Because if i meet you right now, i'me sure your mother would not recognize you...

I go...

You see, i'm tolerant and you are not...

Because if i meet you right now, i'me sure your mother would not recognize you...

True story...

" The fear leads to the anger, the anger leads to the hatred, the hatred leads to the suffering. "
George Lucas, Dialogue of the American movie Star Wars, episode 1

I respect all people and not all opinions. Not all opinions are worth to be respected while all people are. And that is the right thing to do.

I can live with that. Certainly because you haven't defined 'people'.

And saying that does not mean that I try to behave like a morally superior person. It only means that I am better informed.

Translation: That does not mean that I try to behave like a morally superior person. It only means that I am right and you are wrong.

Why are we even having this discussion? You're the hillbilly version of Rubinho.

Unborn babies are also other people.

no, they are not.

"It is not the being born which is the life but the consciousness."
Philosophe égyptien.

Translation: That does not mean that I try to behave like a morally superior person. It only means that I am right and you are wrong.

But in this case I am. "Not all opinions are worth to be respected while all people are." Are you saying that this is wrong? Opinion: "All _____ (insert nation) should be killed." Worth respect?

I really don't get you. It seems as if you want that I leave the option about being wrong even when I am certain about a truth and that I respect every single opinion even the utter stupid ones and even insultive.

Yes, they are. And if you don't kill them, I can prove that.

"It is not the being born which is the life but the consciousness."
Philosophe égyptien.

The message of this saying relates to the people that are already born. E.g. many are unconscious enough to kill an unborn baby.

so a caterpillar is a butterfly? :)

an infant is an old man?

if you don't use condoms, I can prove you that your sperm and your women's eggs are a man...awesome logic :-)