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Subject: FIFA World Cup U-20 Egypt 2009
Anyone know how englands getting on?
No publicity about this at all really bar a bit on sky sports news if you watch all day
No publicity about this at all really bar a bit on sky sports news if you watch all day
England 0 - 1 Uruguay
Ghana 4 - 0 England
I guess this explains why you don't have news from Egypt :)
Ghana 4 - 0 England
I guess this explains why you don't have news from Egypt :)
hmm i guess :P
ergh just saw the squad list, i only recognise one of the names. I guess we're in the same position as italy with regards to players staying with the club rather than playing at this tournament :\ shame
ergh just saw the squad list, i only recognise one of the names. I guess we're in the same position as italy with regards to players staying with the club rather than playing at this tournament :\ shame
Hungary is back in the game... We've just beaten South Africa - 4-0.
FIFA gives money (prices) to National Federations. It's no good that a club didn't let their players participate and after recieve the benefits of the results.
I believe that this is a UEFA's strategy for justifiying the crappy results...
I believe that this is a UEFA's strategy for justifiying the crappy results...
But according to what Vampire said, the Spanish federation took a different standing, so it's not every UEFA team.
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first of all most of top players in this WC already play in european clubs so where's the difference between europeans nt and non-europeans nt?
the problem is that some federations don't care about this competition, clubs don't care about this competition and even players don't care about this competition...
do you think that players like asenjo or balotelli prefer to play in this world cup or in Champions League?
do you think that european federations cares too much about the under 20 WC while prices for the UEFA under 21 cup are much more higher?
do you think that top clubs prefer to give their young stars to a WC of wich players and federations don't care or just prefer to have their players with them?
and europeans federations don't give money to their clubs so what kind of benefits will have a club by the prices from this WC?
it is very simple
most federations don't care about this competition so just let decide clubs about giving or not their best players (and of cour clubs didn't wanted to)
spanish federation decided to force clubs to give players for this WC and you can see by yourself the bad results on clubs and fans from what Vampire posted before
the fact (and the problem) is that our best players already play in under 21 NT wich is much more important than this WC
first of all most of top players in this WC already play in european clubs so where's the difference between europeans nt and non-europeans nt?
the problem is that some federations don't care about this competition, clubs don't care about this competition and even players don't care about this competition...
do you think that players like asenjo or balotelli prefer to play in this world cup or in Champions League?
do you think that european federations cares too much about the under 20 WC while prices for the UEFA under 21 cup are much more higher?
do you think that top clubs prefer to give their young stars to a WC of wich players and federations don't care or just prefer to have their players with them?
and europeans federations don't give money to their clubs so what kind of benefits will have a club by the prices from this WC?
it is very simple
most federations don't care about this competition so just let decide clubs about giving or not their best players (and of cour clubs didn't wanted to)
spanish federation decided to force clubs to give players for this WC and you can see by yourself the bad results on clubs and fans from what Vampire posted before
the fact (and the problem) is that our best players already play in under 21 NT wich is much more important than this WC
our best players already play in under 21 NT wich is much more important than this WC
I don't get it: there isn't such a thing as U21 and U20, there's only ONE youth World Cup (appart from U-17). The fact that Euro tournament is U-21 instead of U-20 is a detail, but it doesn't mean that there are "two NTs", it's only that the eldest can't play true competitions (like WCs :P) so it's a waste of time using them in other matches anyway :P
I don't get it: there isn't such a thing as U21 and U20, there's only ONE youth World Cup (appart from U-17). The fact that Euro tournament is U-21 instead of U-20 is a detail, but it doesn't mean that there are "two NTs", it's only that the eldest can't play true competitions (like WCs :P) so it's a waste of time using them in other matches anyway :P
it doesn't mean that there are "two NTs"
yes there are! two different NTs with two different coach wich choose different players
you don't have to qualify to your Sub20 so you don't have official matches during all the season, we have to qualify to Euro under 21 Cup, Euro under 19 Cup, Euro under 17 Cup and of course there are senior NT matches
all those matches are played during the same days
i.e.
Tuesday at 15:00 Under 19 match
Tuesday at 21:00 Under 21 match
Wednesday at 20:30 Senior NT match
so if a player is really strong he plays for the under 21 (Macheda 17yo, Balotelli 19yo etc...) or for the Senior NT (Santon 18yo) and not for the Under 19
and just to let you understand how our federations don't care about this WC we don't have a real Under 20 NT, our under 20 is just the under 19 of last year without players that becomed Under 21 and there will not be another under 20 match untill Italy will partecipate again to the under 20 WC, so the only players of last year are Fiorillo, Albertazzi, Raggio Garibaldi, Sciacca and Maritato...only 5 players on 22 as all others players are already in a more important NT
and while this WC is playing there are been already 2 matches for the under 21 NT and there will be 2 more matches for them next week
plus I have to say that the Under 21 don't work as the Under 20, players selected now must be selectable for the finals so if a player is 21 now he won't be able to play finals as he will be 22 on june 2011 so he can't be selected even now
yes there are! two different NTs with two different coach wich choose different players
you don't have to qualify to your Sub20 so you don't have official matches during all the season, we have to qualify to Euro under 21 Cup, Euro under 19 Cup, Euro under 17 Cup and of course there are senior NT matches
all those matches are played during the same days
i.e.
Tuesday at 15:00 Under 19 match
Tuesday at 21:00 Under 21 match
Wednesday at 20:30 Senior NT match
so if a player is really strong he plays for the under 21 (Macheda 17yo, Balotelli 19yo etc...) or for the Senior NT (Santon 18yo) and not for the Under 19
and just to let you understand how our federations don't care about this WC we don't have a real Under 20 NT, our under 20 is just the under 19 of last year without players that becomed Under 21 and there will not be another under 20 match untill Italy will partecipate again to the under 20 WC, so the only players of last year are Fiorillo, Albertazzi, Raggio Garibaldi, Sciacca and Maritato...only 5 players on 22 as all others players are already in a more important NT
and while this WC is playing there are been already 2 matches for the under 21 NT and there will be 2 more matches for them next week
plus I have to say that the Under 21 don't work as the Under 20, players selected now must be selectable for the finals so if a player is 21 now he won't be able to play finals as he will be 22 on june 2011 so he can't be selected even now
you don't have to qualify to your Sub20 so you don't have official matches during all the season
False, you don't play U20 WC if you didn't qualify. If UEFA sends to U20 WC teams that did well in Euro 21 that's UEFA problem, buy you DO have to qualify. Just as Atrgentina didn't qualify to this WC.
False, you don't play U20 WC if you didn't qualify. If UEFA sends to U20 WC teams that did well in Euro 21 that's UEFA problem, buy you DO have to qualify. Just as Atrgentina didn't qualify to this WC.
nope you missunderstood
you (from south america) don't have to qualify to your Sub20....and best teams from Sub20 go to Under 20 WC
we have to qualify to uefa under 19, and then best teams from uefa under 19 cup go to under 20 WC
it's the same for the real World Cup
your qualification tournament last 4 years as you don't have to qualify for the Copa America
in europe we have qualification tournament for Euro Cup wich last 2 years and after the Euro Cup it starts the qualification tournament for the World Cup
so we play more official matches than NT from south america
you (from south america) don't have to qualify to your Sub20....and best teams from Sub20 go to Under 20 WC
we have to qualify to uefa under 19, and then best teams from uefa under 19 cup go to under 20 WC
it's the same for the real World Cup
your qualification tournament last 4 years as you don't have to qualify for the Copa America
in europe we have qualification tournament for Euro Cup wich last 2 years and after the Euro Cup it starts the qualification tournament for the World Cup
so we play more official matches than NT from south america
