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Subject: Evony...

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2009-11-24 20:32:47
Has anyone actually signed up? What is the site???

As far as i can tell, it has one of the best marketing approaches ever: Hot skantily clad girls calling internet users "My Lord".

But i suspect it is severely lacking in content.
2009-11-24 20:35:56
im guessing it depends what you mean by "content" caus the adverts would suggest otherwise :P

but no, i hafnt :)

all games start off shocking anyways in general.. sokker was one of the best at the time, then you find games where you actually play as a player in a team, and you have a proper online soccer game :)

im guessing its just another one of these onlnie MMORPG's..great when you get into it, but lacking the funding for further developement..and a program taht the developer soon gives up on in search of a new challenge...
2009-11-24 21:40:38
its pretty boring after a while, the first people on are in control, and no-one can beat them
2009-11-24 22:56:51
In my opinion it's the worst marketing approach ever. When I saw the ads for the first time I thought it was an ad for a porn or hentai site. Naturally always curious, I clicked the ads and to my surprise I found some stupid game not bearing any similarity with the ads. The ads are absolutely not representing any aspect of the game.

The advert campaign has been heavily criticized
2009-11-24 23:09:06
http://www.lazygamer.co.za/general-news/a-history-of-evony-ads-the-insanity-continues/

"November 3, 2009
5:30 pm
Lee
I am a student studying computer games design at uni and decided to investigate Evony.com.
Just to see what some of these games are like etc. etc.
The game is actually kind of cool (found myself addicted and even spent a little money on it).
But I started to notice HUGE bandwidth use by the site as I played.
I am not the only one either, there are comments on the evony forums about this.
This is odd because all of the client info, the animations etc. are all downloaded in one big download at the start.
There is no streaming media so I began to wonder what was going on.

To cut a long story short I decided to break the law and reverse engineer Evony’s client.
Not to cheat. Not to rip them off or even to use even a scrap of the code.
But just to poke about a bit and find out what was going on, maybe even offer them some ways to improve things.

Aside from the fact that the whole thing is very poorly constructed (it is really very beginner coder level stuff. Reminds me of a lot of
what the first year students produce for assignments) it contained some very interesting information.

Included with the client are 2 peices of tracking software that monitor your web use and which applications you have open while the client is running.
These do not install independently on the machine though due to the limitations of flash and do not actually damage anything.
But they harvest massive volumes of information. My firewall was blocking a lot of outgoing transmissions and it turns out that these
were the data trying to be sent out. So they know nothing about me. lol.
However there is a LOT of data coming IN over the ports the client uses. In otherwords it is downloading something into my cache for use later.
I have bandiwdth restriction which slows these types of tricks down and I completely clear my cache every couple of hours if I am heavily using the net.

I also noticed that all the varanbles etc. are named Civony still and that there are multiple references to UMGE.
Even a couple of folders are simply called UMGE, one of these folders contains one of the spyware programs.
So I can only guess at where the data would end up if I didnt have a good firewall.

There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.

Thank you for reading this.

Lee"
2009-11-24 23:39:01
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2009-11-25 00:47:14
hmmmm, last time i checked reverse engineering at most it can show you the assembler code. If you can figure all the things he said with the assembler code, he should receive the freaking nobel prize.

There are some decompilers that tries to get the C code, but they generally suck.

So my guess is that what Lee said is pure bs.
2009-11-25 09:37:35
I'm not an expert.
2009-11-25 13:29:27
reverse engineering is not only about code but about everything which involves the program which cant be noticed at first sight, so also about networking usage by the program.
I dont know anything about the game but i guess that with some good sniffing techniques it should be very easy to find out the informations Lee talks about.
2009-11-25 14:01:55
Why did you post that song?
2009-11-25 17:51:47
so that a mod can remove it. please
2009-11-25 19:54:26
Yep, but for what he says:

There are also commented out sections in the code which contain references to UMGE and Lam himself, though low on details.

He is actually talking about Code. So for me is BS.
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