Subject: Do you smoke?

if u aren't why don't you?

dude, you are being irrelevant

You have clearly not read this whole thread if you claim "noone [sic] is talking about alcohol". Refer to page 6.

It is true that drinking alcohol is considered socially acceptable, especially when compared to smoking. But if you have a "that's life, nothing wrong with it" perception of getting drunk, then I'm afraid that's more to do with your personal opinions than reality. Why do you think there are laws against drink driving? Laws against serving alcohol to already intoxicated patrons? Laws (in some countries) preventing people from entering a bar past a certain hour?

Countries like the UK, Australia and New Zealand (among others) have a strong 'binge drinking' culture among the younger demographic. It is a bane on society. The people who perpetuate such a culture may consider themselves 'cool', much like smokers do I suspect, but this does not make it so. As a direct comparison, a person is much less likely to continue a 'binge drinking' lifestyle (which may lead to alcoholism) to death than somebody who smokes even on their death bed.

The belief that cigarettes are worse than alcohol is not unfounded. Just look at advertising - many (most?) Western countries prohibit any form of tobacco advertisement, whereas you will often find numerous alcohol ads during the Superbowl, for example.

But drinking is accepted - smoking isn't. 10 (or 20) years ago, smoking war normal. You could smoke in the office, at hospitals, you could smoke everywhere. And now smoking is strictly forbidden almost everywhere and people look down on people who smoke.

Correct. I'm not seeing a problem here..

You shouldn't.
Convenience.
Prior commitments.
It's a sport.
Modern society 101.

Why should you smoke - sorry, I've got nothing.

I am not as we all dead one day :-)... It makes me happier in my life :-) (because i'm not afraid of m death)

And could you tell me why am i irrevelant please ? i'd be happy to learn about that ? :-)
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In your startlingly abstract attempt at being witty (?!) you have somehow claimed that a necessity of life (breathing) is killing you. Care to explain that howler?

Smoking is detrimental to your health. 100% fact. Smoking has zero health benefits. 100% fact. People, by choosing to smoke, are deliberately harming their health. These people are idiots.

Many new users are young and to enter into a group, they need to to like the group.

Correct, thus the social disquiet over smoking! That's kinda what this thread is about. Unfortunately their are some who still think smoking is 'cool', many of them smokers and many wannabes. Natural selection will weed these people out of the gene pool with any luck.

But drinking is accepted - smoking isn't. 10 (or 20) years ago, smoking war normal. You could smoke in the office, at hospitals, you could smoke everywhere. And now smoking is strictly forbidden almost everywhere and people look down on people who smoke.

Correct. I'm not seeing a problem here..


I see a problem here.
Especially talking about people who've smoked for decades.

Many older people simply "need" their cigarettes to calm down, take a break etc. It was part of their culture, so at least we should accept that not look down on them.

my point of view.
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An idiot is someone who is not acting rational at all imo. Now, what are the motives to begin smoking:
- It looks cool ( no it doesn't dudes, it's ridiculous )
- I have problems, and need something ( this is even more ridiculous, whatever your problems are, they're not going to improve because of smoking )

Well, that was quite a list ... Now the disadvantages:

- Very unhealthy ( if someone denies this: you're an idiot ), not only for yourself, but also for the people around you
- Stinking, maybe not for yourself, but for non-smokers it really does
- It hearts to my eyes, if the smoke is blown into my face, not very pleasant you know
- It costs a lot of money, although prices of tobacco should be doubled again imo

Now, if you smoke, how can you explain you're not an idiot?

An idiot is someone who is not acting rational at all
what a stupid sentence.

We're not machines, damn...

Then you should learn English: "... who is not acting rational at all" means someone who lacks any kind of rationality ...

Still I don't get why someone who smokes should lack any kind of rationality...
many other things we do are not rational at all. If people feel good smoking a cigarette - why not.

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I don't call such people stupid. And as I said, years ago smoking was part of our culture.

Imho people like you are extremely intolerant.
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For me someone who smokes is like someone who's fat or someone having a disease like AIDS.

Oh my ...

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maybe it's a problem of my English so you got it wrong. Sorry for that.

Just wanted to say that your arguments of beeing "stupid" could be used for those cases too.

What? Smóking is a awesome activity with decent negative effects.
Very similar to Coffee... anybody who drinks coffee is a idiot too ?


Yes, you are true !

And Vilpu, if you drink coffee, then your high awesome is equal to false.

Question for smokers: Can`t you cover your fingers with nicotine and suck it later ? By doing this there wouldn`t be any disturbing smoke fume but you still can get your satisfaction or whatever you get...

And Vilpu, if you drink coffee, then your high awesome is equal to false.

For your concern I don`t drink coffee. But I think I might in near future, because bit caffeine before training is good. If you take it approximitely 45 minutes before gym workout, then it helps you to use bigger weights. Taking some caffeine before any aerobic excercise it boosts fat burning.