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Yes, but I was thinking about Hrvatska, Lietuva, etc, which were also posted ;)
so what is exactly the issue here?
I mean, what is still the issue here..?
I mean, what is still the issue here..?
you said''that fact: employees from public sector retire at the age of 50 and get afaik 90% of their base wage''
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your media give you the myth of''lazy greeks'' and you just believed them
dont blame you ;)
So you're telling, that noone in the public sector got retired with 50 in Greece (not counting this year)?
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your media give you the myth of''lazy greeks'' and you just believed them
dont blame you ;)
So you're telling, that noone in the public sector got retired with 50 in Greece (not counting this year)?
Rubino, look on Greece....they are in deep shit but they are making important reforms.
Of course, it will hurt/be painful and are very unpleasant.
Slovaks have made such a reforms several years ago and we are always improving it.
BUT !! Look on France, Italy, they are going to same deep shit and are not making important reforms :-). Just Portuguese are on good way, I hope. So tell me, what part of EU is applying everything what is good in economy based of free market? Western EU not, just eastern.
Also look on your country, after new government established, what do you think, will you new gov. pass important reforms to stop debt growing and solve that your problems with wallons ? I think not, because western EU is ill and forgot what free market and health economics is.
Of course, it will hurt/be painful and are very unpleasant.
Slovaks have made such a reforms several years ago and we are always improving it.
BUT !! Look on France, Italy, they are going to same deep shit and are not making important reforms :-). Just Portuguese are on good way, I hope. So tell me, what part of EU is applying everything what is good in economy based of free market? Western EU not, just eastern.
Also look on your country, after new government established, what do you think, will you new gov. pass important reforms to stop debt growing and solve that your problems with wallons ? I think not, because western EU is ill and forgot what free market and health economics is.
Also look on your country, after new government established, what do you think, will you new gov. pass important reforms to stop debt growing and solve that your problems with wallons ? I think not, because western EU is ill and forgot what free market and health economics is.
Belgium is going to be a complete financial disaster if that new government will be formed. Has nothing to do with Western part of EU. And you know I'm in favor of free market. But try to explain that in fucking Belgium ;-)
Belgium is going to be a complete financial disaster if that new government will be formed. Has nothing to do with Western part of EU. And you know I'm in favor of free market. But try to explain that in fucking Belgium ;-)
I know it, that is Why I told you that in spite of the fact that you like just western EU, eastern EU is health core of EU :).
Of course I mean progress in words "health core", Your economics are bigger so still more powerful, just collapsing and destroying whole EU :(.
Of course I mean progress in words "health core", Your economics are bigger so still more powerful, just collapsing and destroying whole EU :(.
I read this btw...
minimal wage in Greece 862,82 eur, God bless for such a average, not only minimal wage in my country !!
minimal wage in Greece 862,82 eur, God bless for such a average, not only minimal wage in my country !!
don't be fooled by numbers and statistics...especially from Greece!
All socialists claim nicer numbers; no unemployment in communist countries for instance...
There is a heffty price to be paid for any social security.Even in countries where the majority of people actually do work...it is hard to pay every non-working person money..
This means a igher income tax and VAT level...like in all northern states incme tax is 50% or about.
VAT is 19% ! These are astounding figures!
come to that there is about one euro of taxes on every liter of fuel sold!
Still...these countries also have depths, are in financial trouble!
Because they were falsely lead into the EU. By socialists....
All socialists claim nicer numbers; no unemployment in communist countries for instance...
There is a heffty price to be paid for any social security.Even in countries where the majority of people actually do work...it is hard to pay every non-working person money..
This means a igher income tax and VAT level...like in all northern states incme tax is 50% or about.
VAT is 19% ! These are astounding figures!
come to that there is about one euro of taxes on every liter of fuel sold!
Still...these countries also have depths, are in financial trouble!
Because they were falsely lead into the EU. By socialists....
GB's VAT is 20% - and we are not led by socialists.
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