Subject: »PIIGS - economics problems

Maybe because Poland was totally drained by Soviets after the WW - rings a bell?
We were devastated after the war and didn't really start to get back on our feet untill the Russians left, that was after 1989 mind you, so only about 20 years ago - with no proper economic backup etc.

We didn't even take part in the Marshall plan because the Russians didn't allow us to.

Now we're doing quite well - we have our problems, but it's fine.

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you don't know what working efficiency is...if you work by hours you can check 50 papers or 100 papers, that's working efficiency, not the fact whether you're in your work or not.
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Now we're doing quite well - we have our problems, but it's fine.

I dont want nothing bad to yours as a country, just understund me, agains is about communism not about weather

not any opinion is an economic theory, being your opinion a theory would mean all the international inversors leaving Califormia, as the warm weather will condicionate negativily the economy!


you don't know what working efficiency is.

you feel better thinking i dont know is perfect, efficiency is related with productivity, not with weather of beers anyway, thats what it is
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It's amazing how you keep trying to prove mentality/climate influence on economic efficiency by comparing countries (Spain vs. Poland) which recently spent half a century in socioeconomic systems of incredibly different efficiency (capitalism vs. communism).

Well, in fact, when I think about it, it is not so amazing when one realises what you are trying to prove here. Those are the best "examples" out there really. :P

you don't know what working efficiency is...if you work by hours you can check 50 papers or 100 papers, that's working efficiency, not the fact whether you're in your work or not.

You have to understand. It's a cultural difference. He's from Spain. When you sit at work, that's work. :D

spain not really free market in full 20th century but intervinied economy mixed with free market on some areas, as any fascist economy, anyhow who cares, i think you cant get my point, even being areas on the world warm and rich, you are free to think what you want about weather :)

You have to understand. It's a cultural difference. He's from Spain. When you sit at work, that's work. :D



so we must be smarter as hell for being richer than you without working...


For me, a guy from your countries guys, telling me stereotypes about my economy or my way of working ( as a nation i mean no my personally)...well its like a 1.60 cm boy telling me how small i am ( 1.75 cm)
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Look, I've been in Italy lately, my mother works there for quite some time.

After first days at work she was asked by others why is she working so hard, doing everything so properly, working till last minute etc. For her it was a totally normal approach and you'd find that most people in Poland worked like she did.

She was quite amazed by the laziness of some people, believe me...

Another fact, which you can't deny, is the working hours. In Poland you open a shop/grossery/whatever - you keep working till your working day is over. A small shop near my house is open since 7 till 23 without any brakes. I've seen shops etc. in Italy that are open 8-12/pause/14-18 - there's no such thing in Poland. There's no midday 'siesta'...

You have to understand. It's a cultural difference. He's from Spain. When you sit at work, that's work. :D

rotfl :P

but thats productivity! less hours working and more "PIB" ( "full domestic product in english?") as a country means more productivity

anyhow i think you are talking about your thinkings or impressions, not about any proved theory

How can a shop[!] be more efficient when it's open for shorter time? :)
I'm just pointing out the approach towards work.

Every country and people from soviet era are used to work, and this type of normal work is hardworking/drill work ob south countries. I heard very similar stories from people working there.
But this type of working reality and productivity south countries doesnt like to hear...

Borkos, it is just case when they run out of arguments :)

here shops dosent close at midday, in italy you say it happens....but where is the weather??

and yeah a country working less hours and producing more means a more productivity country

productivity of Labour= hours worked/output numbers generated

its just economy

in old Egypt slaves worked many hours for free...what a great productivity! come on haha

i leave here, be happy and stay with your thinkings if you want :)

it depends what you consider by producinig more means
you're talking about factory workers and how much they produce per day, or about bankers, lawyers etc. and how much money they gain by day? :)

as for the weather question - guess by yourself why they make a pause in work at the middle of the day when it's the hottest part of the day...

Mistake.. purchase power make different prices..... Or more simple we made same bread but iba your country it can be more expensive..... Higher salary, cost so higher price, but totaly same productivity. In prices you have bigger but real productivity is same. It is like debts, for us are 50% debt of gdp too much, for you it is like no debt :)