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Oh, at least it's better than democracy ;-)
Oh wait ...
Oh wait ...
:P
kill you if U say it again :)))
I would see u in your appartment, electricity being cut off at 9 p.m........... TV 1 hour per day..... and staying in a queue for 6 hours to get some 6 eggs and 1 liter of milk... if you could buy some meat - you were the happiest Romanian of the day.
So please don't even mention it, please!!!
kill you if U say it again :)))
I would see u in your appartment, electricity being cut off at 9 p.m........... TV 1 hour per day..... and staying in a queue for 6 hours to get some 6 eggs and 1 liter of milk... if you could buy some meat - you were the happiest Romanian of the day.
So please don't even mention it, please!!!
... and rumpil... one more thing: I consider the freedom of feelings (music, literature, art in general), of speech, of choice, the right to be informed, the rights to move and other moral values are incomparably more valuable then those few financial advantages (if there were any) we had during the communism... free apartments for the working class? Jobs (what working for? for nothing????? for food?)? Free learning (what to learn in communism for? - no future anyway)? censorship and repressions?
Are you actually aware that all this shit made us being sheep in our society? :)
Are you actually aware that all this shit made us being sheep in our society? :)
I am not saying that communism is better (point is nice and intersting but it can not work,anywhere)
But more people here dont like their politics and maybe hate people who vote them. And sorry, give me 100 000e for political ads and I will achieve 1-2% in election for sure, if I will promise what people want then more...: of course my voters will be uneducated people, maybe people from bad social condition or so.. but who cares.
And this is problem, current political parties have much more € from companies behind and they are making political marketing only, so just ads no real politics.... And this is big mistake of democracy.
Yes people have right to vote which = people have right to destroy your country for beer and sausages :(
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But more people here dont like their politics and maybe hate people who vote them. And sorry, give me 100 000e for political ads and I will achieve 1-2% in election for sure, if I will promise what people want then more...: of course my voters will be uneducated people, maybe people from bad social condition or so.. but who cares.
And this is problem, current political parties have much more € from companies behind and they are making political marketing only, so just ads no real politics.... And this is big mistake of democracy.
Yes people have right to vote which = people have right to destroy your country for beer and sausages :(
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So some people vote for parties that promise the most. Still, in Flanders, the big winner of the last elections is a party that said severe budget cuts were necessary, who didn't make the big financial promises.
It is very very true you're telling us and we all know that and it is the bad side of the modern democracy - money that can and actually have a huge impact upon the electorate.
But it not essential in democracy. That is why there is an opposition, there are more parties, that is why we are allowed to make a choice.
The most important in democracy that the one who will get ahead will not beat you just because you shouted "freedom" on the street. Important are our Human Values. Get over politicians, over their money, over the 10% salary increase, over pollution, over their TV debates, over every dirty things capitalism could generate.
Think you are free and you're allowed to build your life and the life of your family as you want.
Just do it :)
But it not essential in democracy. That is why there is an opposition, there are more parties, that is why we are allowed to make a choice.
The most important in democracy that the one who will get ahead will not beat you just because you shouted "freedom" on the street. Important are our Human Values. Get over politicians, over their money, over the 10% salary increase, over pollution, over their TV debates, over every dirty things capitalism could generate.
Think you are free and you're allowed to build your life and the life of your family as you want.
Just do it :)
But more people here dont like their politics and maybe hate people who vote them.
Bottomline: because of Democracy you can actually try to do something about it yourself!!
(It will not be easy but you can!!)
That, for me, is the single most powerfull argument why democracy is the less worst system.. :)
Bottomline: because of Democracy you can actually try to do something about it yourself!!
(It will not be easy but you can!!)
That, for me, is the single most powerfull argument why democracy is the less worst system.. :)
because of Democracy you can actually try to do something about it yourself!!
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Exactly what I said above
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Exactly what I said above
But it not essential in democracy. That is why there is an opposition, there are more parties, that is why we are allowed to make a choice.
sorry, but this is funny... we have two political sides in the slovakia (right and left) and you are choosing just if J&T or Penta or other company will win... this is opposition..
that is why I understand why greeks are angry... of course, it is mistake of people but system is bad too...
sorry, but this is funny... we have two political sides in the slovakia (right and left) and you are choosing just if J&T or Penta or other company will win... this is opposition..
that is why I understand why greeks are angry... of course, it is mistake of people but system is bad too...
Think you are free and you're allowed to build your life and the life of your family as you want.
Just do it :)
Capitalism is not that you are free :-). You just should think it... but you must pay rent, loans and everything so you dont have chance do what you want...you are just slave :-)
of course, repair capitalism and we will be really free !! but ... repair communism and ... :-DDD
Just do it :)
Capitalism is not that you are free :-). You just should think it... but you must pay rent, loans and everything so you dont have chance do what you want...you are just slave :-)
of course, repair capitalism and we will be really free !! but ... repair communism and ... :-DDD
because of Democracy you can actually try to do something about it yourself!!
hm... yes you can, and you can join same thinking people and then you will get miracle 5% in election :-D.
Sheeps, or plebs can want just happy short life, so huge social benefits, low costs of goods and free loans and rich pension and after 30 year country will collapses (but they will be dead, so where is problem).
And...according to what you said... they can actually do it :-(
hm... yes you can, and you can join same thinking people and then you will get miracle 5% in election :-D.
Sheeps, or plebs can want just happy short life, so huge social benefits, low costs of goods and free loans and rich pension and after 30 year country will collapses (but they will be dead, so where is problem).
And...according to what you said... they can actually do it :-(
You can start your own party. And by the way, you have more than two parties, you're not obliged to vote for one of the big ones.
:DDD
but you must pay rent, loans
It is your choice :)) Does somebody force you to do it? :P
You don't have to. But if you DO want a better living, paying loans, debts, ... just think how to earn more money for that, or at least invest in your future to be able to face the difficulties the capitalist society brings you forward.
Do it :)
but you must pay rent, loans
It is your choice :)) Does somebody force you to do it? :P
You don't have to. But if you DO want a better living, paying loans, debts, ... just think how to earn more money for that, or at least invest in your future to be able to face the difficulties the capitalist society brings you forward.
Do it :)
hm... yes you can, and you can join same thinking people and then you will get miracle 5% in election
That is one of the many options you have. It does not have to be a political party, another option might be to organize and start educating the sheep!! etc...
That is one of the many options you have. It does not have to be a political party, another option might be to organize and start educating the sheep!! etc...