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Yes, the plan does make sense to me. Yes, your politicians made mistakes, and someone has to pay that. And most logically, it is you, the Greek people, you've elected them.
Exactly :)
Exactly :)
hehe...
buying 20.000 € of Fortis stock when it was at 8€ ... :p
Sory mate:p
buying 20.000 € of Fortis stock when it was at 8€ ... :p
Sory mate:p
Same in Greece if I understood the news correctly. Over 20% of taxes aren't paid in Greece, it's almost part of their culture not to pay everything. That's billions of Euro's the goverment don't get every year.
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In 3 years, the economic recession will maybe just be over, so you can't say what the situation will be, and by 'reversing' the question, you just evade to answer my question.
the thing is that in my point of view, not a single european or american or whover citizen should pay a single euro for that banks-made crisis. recently most of the european governments paid some billions of euros to banks. among them was greece. why so? why now greeks have to pay for the crisis, but banks dont? is that fair?
and anyway, as i told yoy this is a political and economical game of US, major global banks and golden boys to make money and target euro. why should all citizens of the world pay money for such games??
If no citizens have to pay for that crisis ... The government has to save ( with money of the tax payers, so in fact, the citizens already payed a part of it ) those banks. And don't say they don't have to do that, because if they wouldn't, a lot of people would've lost their savings from years ago. Banks can't pay for it, as they are the one that are having serious problems. I hope you can see that on this point, I'm certainly right.
the thing is that in my point of view, not a single european or american or whover citizen should pay a single euro for that banks-made crisis. recently most of the european governments paid some billions of euros to banks. among them was greece. why so? why now greeks have to pay for the crisis, but banks dont? is that fair?
and anyway, as i told yoy this is a political and economical game of US, major global banks and golden boys to make money and target euro. why should all citizens of the world pay money for such games??
If no citizens have to pay for that crisis ... The government has to save ( with money of the tax payers, so in fact, the citizens already payed a part of it ) those banks. And don't say they don't have to do that, because if they wouldn't, a lot of people would've lost their savings from years ago. Banks can't pay for it, as they are the one that are having serious problems. I hope you can see that on this point, I'm certainly right.
buying 20.000 € of Fortis stock when it was at 8€ ... :p
buying 12,5K EUR of Fortis stock when it was at 1,50 EUR
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buying 12,5K EUR of Fortis stock when it was at 1,50 EUR
;-)
If anyone wondered what the Mattheus effect looked like... ;)
yeah these guys make a fortune.
and with these measures, the same guys will not pay anything as well.
so are these measures fair tou you?
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and with these measures, the same guys will not pay anything as well.
so are these measures fair tou you?
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or maybe bank system has to change.
yes, that has to change. But it can only change on a global scale. I think.
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if you lived in greece you would answer differently.
cheers.
cheers.
hmm... up to 1.3 billion will be irelands contribution to the bailout
Haha, thats 0.2 billion more than Belgium ;-)
Of course the Netherlands has to be 1 of best of the best in Europe again, we lend them 4.7 billion :S I don't know where our money-trees grow but it must be a big secret ...