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"PIIGS" isn´t a little (too much) pejorative?
who changed the title?
it means Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain!
but it still sound a bit an insult!!!
who changed the title?
it means Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain!
but it still sound a bit an insult!!!
every insult can be perceived as a sad true.
Gentlemen doesn't use words that can be perceived as an insult.
By he way, I'll wait for the next country that get eated by German's euro to see their citizen start understanding a bit more about this trap.
Gentlemen doesn't use words that can be perceived as an insult.
By he way, I'll wait for the next country that get eated by German's euro to see their citizen start understanding a bit more about this trap.
By he way, I'll wait for the next country that get eated by German's euro to see their citizen start understanding a bit more about this trap.
What countries do you expect to follow?
What countries do you expect to follow?
if there is not piigs problem, EU will never try to pass that new law about national budgets (losing sovereignty about budgets)... I hope this law will pass.
What countries do you expect to follow?
I think france is facing some big problems. But I don't know if they will really do what "austherity" politicians teach, so maybe they will save themselves.
But I think next countries can be the new entries in EU.
I think france is facing some big problems. But I don't know if they will really do what "austherity" politicians teach, so maybe they will save themselves.
But I think next countries can be the new entries in EU.
Isn't is worldwide word :) ?
yes, but pejorative
it means Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain!
but it still sound a bit an insult!!!
I know it, is an insult, even a little fascist
yes, but pejorative
it means Portugal, Ireland, Italy, Greece, Spain!
but it still sound a bit an insult!!!
I know it, is an insult, even a little fascist
Using word facist in case of economics failiture is ridiculous.
problem is that these countries had the biggest benefits from european financement. their growth was based not by their effort, but by european public investments. italy, a little bit less, but... enough.
now they are the source of the european ruin.
now they are the source of the european ruin.
Yep, France are in quite some trouble. Their own mess. They shouldn't elect such morons ;-)
It is possible to stay out of trouble. Look at Scandinavia. Look at the Benelux. Look at Germany and Austria.
The problem is that the Southern European states saw the properity in those countries, and wanted to subsidize their way to it. It doesn't work that way. You can only subsidize according to your economic strength.
It is possible to stay out of trouble. Look at Scandinavia. Look at the Benelux. Look at Germany and Austria.
The problem is that the Southern European states saw the properity in those countries, and wanted to subsidize their way to it. It doesn't work that way. You can only subsidize according to your economic strength.
It is possible to stay out of trouble. Look at Scandinavia.
banks have closed and unenployment has been raising for 5 years, social welfare has been cut down, psychiatric and normal health care has been cut down...... i dont know what you mean by us staying out of trouble??
banks have closed and unenployment has been raising for 5 years, social welfare has been cut down, psychiatric and normal health care has been cut down...... i dont know what you mean by us staying out of trouble??
banks have closed
bad and ill bank have been closed
unenployment has been raising for 5 years
there a millions people who can do your job for 1/3 salary, dont be surprise, EU is not the whole world :-) EU live "behind their manners" - if I remember this word ok :-)
social welfare has been cut down, psychiatric and normal health care has been cut down
it is still on very high level, believe me or just come to Slovakia. EU had a lot of luxury social programs which was running by debts or out of economics strength
Nobody want to see and want to used to for normal conditions/life, if somebody tried better conditions/life dont want have worse conditions now :-)
The biggest mistake is system called democracy which allow "raising of scale" among rich and poor and which allow to sheep vote and make general decision for everybody.
bad and ill bank have been closed
unenployment has been raising for 5 years
there a millions people who can do your job for 1/3 salary, dont be surprise, EU is not the whole world :-) EU live "behind their manners" - if I remember this word ok :-)
social welfare has been cut down, psychiatric and normal health care has been cut down
it is still on very high level, believe me or just come to Slovakia. EU had a lot of luxury social programs which was running by debts or out of economics strength
Nobody want to see and want to used to for normal conditions/life, if somebody tried better conditions/life dont want have worse conditions now :-)
The biggest mistake is system called democracy which allow "raising of scale" among rich and poor and which allow to sheep vote and make general decision for everybody.
problem is that these countries had the biggest benefits from european financement.
no, it killed us.
money from north (private and public) boost our inflaction and has financed mortgage debt bubbles
. their growth was based not by their effort, but by european public investments.
Not really. In fact Germany's growth is based on a competitive war done against us, using their lower inflaction to gain 0.5%/1% EVERY YEAR on southern countries.
italy, a little bit less, but... enough.
we had public sector in pair with Berlusconi.. (it sound ridiculous but its true)
balance of payments in active..
This is not a financial or public debt crisis.
It is an ECONOMICAL (private sector) one. Media talking about public debt and public spending are only making propaganda!
now they are the source of the european ruin.
the source of ruin is the EURO.
Euro is not only a coin..
it is a system of government based on external constraints, that allows countries gov's to ask austerity and cuts becausa "Europe ask us".
but in reality it get in a war* between countries to gain competitivity one on the other , how?
cutting labour rights, cutting public spending, cutting welfare state.
Germany did it before (and did it strongly) and it reduced its inflaction (worst salaries, no higher salaries = less inflaction) and boosted its industrial competitiveness compared to the other countries.
So they gained soon a balance of payments increase related to us.
*=obviously in EU treaties there is no place for this commercial war, this treaties talk about collaboratione and coordination, but in reality nobody is allowed to discuss economic choices of other countries.. especially germans choices that are killing an entire continent..
read here if you want to know something more about: external constraints
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no, it killed us.
money from north (private and public) boost our inflaction and has financed mortgage debt bubbles
. their growth was based not by their effort, but by european public investments.
Not really. In fact Germany's growth is based on a competitive war done against us, using their lower inflaction to gain 0.5%/1% EVERY YEAR on southern countries.
italy, a little bit less, but... enough.
we had public sector in pair with Berlusconi.. (it sound ridiculous but its true)
balance of payments in active..
This is not a financial or public debt crisis.
It is an ECONOMICAL (private sector) one. Media talking about public debt and public spending are only making propaganda!
now they are the source of the european ruin.
the source of ruin is the EURO.
Euro is not only a coin..
it is a system of government based on external constraints, that allows countries gov's to ask austerity and cuts becausa "Europe ask us".
but in reality it get in a war* between countries to gain competitivity one on the other , how?
cutting labour rights, cutting public spending, cutting welfare state.
Germany did it before (and did it strongly) and it reduced its inflaction (worst salaries, no higher salaries = less inflaction) and boosted its industrial competitiveness compared to the other countries.
So they gained soon a balance of payments increase related to us.
*=obviously in EU treaties there is no place for this commercial war, this treaties talk about collaboratione and coordination, but in reality nobody is allowed to discuss economic choices of other countries.. especially germans choices that are killing an entire continent..
read here if you want to know something more about: external constraints
(edited)