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Subject: »Gaza sea convoy incident

2010-06-02 12:26:54
:) u are funny

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2010-06-02 12:30:03
:)
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2010-06-02 12:33:36
you are one of the most funny people here. :)
2010-06-02 12:35:43
Do not worry, time will change :)

And I won't be that sure of your last line if I were you. You zionists are very busy destroying every respect allies have for you. Unfortunatly normal jews also suffer by this zionist actions.

2010-06-02 12:37:27
It looks like my neighbor to the west, agrees with me :)
2010-06-02 12:42:40
not really but i'd better not argue in this topic. :P
2010-06-02 12:49:52
So We were told by Mavi Marmara their crew and civilians were being shot at and windows and doors were being broken by Israelis isn't good enough?

If I'm told anything then I'm not an eyewitness :) If somebody says he heard from IDF that Mavi Marmara opened the fire first then what? Will it be something worth mentioning as you do in this case? Or will it be israeli propaganda? Liars can be (and probably are) on both sides.

"Suddenly from everywhere we saw inflatables coming at us, and within seconds fully equipped commandos came up on the boat. They came up and used plastic bullets, we had beatings, we had electric shocks, any method we can think of, they used."

Yep, plastic bullets. When the url contains eyewitness accounts gunfire and you write eyewitnesses say that the IDF fired first, then attacked with >10 boats and helicopters - I expect real gunfire and not plastic bullets... Sorry, it's biased...

When the israelis release the illegally detained passengers of the ships we will get a better report of what happened.

Besides, even if the IDF used water-filled balloons as ammunition, it was still a highly illegal act to use military vessels to attack neutral civilian ships in international waters.


That's not so clear... The "humanitarians" admitted they don't intend to respect blockade which made them valid target from my interpretation of the legal text. Illegaly detained passengers? Well that's your word. Israeli definitely claims, they are detained legally.

Guys nobody has enough information - we have only short and edited video by Israel and only several testimonies from the other side. Let's wait few more days before expressing our judgments here...
2010-06-02 12:54:31
I think that, seeing the ignorance and resent to self-criticism of our Israeli friend, we will never get this dicussion over.

I'm the first to admit that I don't know enough of laws and of the enitre situation in Israel/Palestina to give torough arguments for my case. But neither do the most of the Israeli users who come here to justifie for what their country did. And the 'he who is without a sin, throw the first stone' argument is bullshit.

In my opinion, which offcourse is biased, as all are opinions, Israel is behaving like the Nazi's did. Creating Lebensraum and anexing peaces of land to which they have no right...
2010-06-02 12:59:03
Situation is exactly opposite to what you said.
British Empire has received a mandate from the UN to keep the area between the Mediterranean sea and the Jordan River for the Jews .

You know the Arabic language there is no letter P?
This is a known fact.
So how a nation can call itself the Palestinian nation if they do not have the letter P in their language?


All! Arabs living in Israel and the Palestinians are Arabs who came to work here during the British and Ottoman Empires .
Jews lived in Israel long before Muhammad was born and founded the Islam but in their war against the Jews, they invented a new nation to reduce our space .

We are willing to divide the space we had, but Hamas has always stated that his goal is to destroy Israel utterly because, according to the Koran that Jews and Christians registered can only live as dhimmis of the Muslims where Muslims live .

You chose to believe the Arabic-Islamic propaganda, but if you really interested you can check what happened to all Christian Arabs who lived in Bethlehem and Lebanon and why they ran away

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2010-06-02 13:03:15
islamic porpaganda or israeli propaganda. I don't quite know which one I should trust... :P

Let's wait for the liberation of the civilians that were on the boat. Because right now, we only have the version of the Israeli. Maybe we could then know what really happened on these ships.
2010-06-02 13:07:51
But you can find sources for things that I wrote on the Internet easily.
The question only if you want.
I did not say that Israel is not to blame in what happened but that's what is happening after so many years that the Arabs do not accept our right to our own Jewish state .
2010-06-02 13:09:52
a spanish who isnt still liberated, was able to give his explanation to spanish media, according to him, boats were stopped in international waters, and of course this guy was not islamic. i mean, is not the same to give gaza food and supplies than to give them weapons, inst it?

I dont know what to believe right now, but i think israel , it wouldnt be their first time in using strength when it wasnt needed
2010-06-02 13:13:49
That's the zionist side of the story and absolutly bull!! Zionists never want to share their stolen land with non-jews. Hamas doesn't want peace, but the zionists aren't better in any way, and even worse.

Most in Europe have free access to internet and tv, no militairy propaganda like in Israel. Overhere we can see both sides of the story if someone takes the time to find good documantairies and articles. And if people still choose to support Israel after watching this info they are animals without a heart, like the zionist are.



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2010-06-02 13:15:55
thanks for adding this legal stuff to this topic ;)
2010-06-02 13:25:18
The only animal without heart is you .
You're so full of hate and because of people like you , there will be no peace in the world.
You make me sick
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2010-06-02 13:26:10
A) Your attacks are feverish and obviously bigoted.
B) Did you know that a fair few on that boat were jihadists? They weren't perfect either.