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Subject: »Gaza sea convoy incident

2010-06-02 13:26:10
A) Your attacks are feverish and obviously bigoted.
B) Did you know that a fair few on that boat were jihadists? They weren't perfect either.
2010-06-02 13:27:11
Hitting the nail on the head, well done mate.
He reminds me a bit of our countries BNP.
2010-06-02 13:30:49
No, you are the peacemaker in this world right? lol

2010-06-02 13:35:41
And you are 1 of the examples I was talking about!

2010-06-02 13:44:31
remember that he's dutch, must be smoking something ;)
2010-06-02 13:46:58
If somebody says he heard from IDF that Mavi Marmara opened the fire first then what?

Actually, you've just described every israeli on this thread :)

About the plastic bullets, I posted that section to show that in no situation were the IDF simplying dropping down from helicopters without attacking at the same time.

Also, here are more eyewitness accounts:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/10208027.stm

The "humanitarians" admitted they don't intend to respect blockade which made them valid target from my interpretation of the legal text. Illegaly detained passengers? Well that's your word. Israeli definitely claims, they are detained legally.

I refer you to my post at 2010-06-02 11:42:06. All legal documents will either contain strict definition of terms used, or clear references to where the definitions of said terms can be found. It's not 'your word' or my word or whatever arbitrary reading of the text you want to use. The actions were illegal.

Read the entire text again:

http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/385ec082b509e76c41256739003e636d/7694fe2016f347e1c125641f002d49ce
2010-06-02 13:50:08
jihadists

See I don't get why people accept terms like jihadist and islamist, invented solely for the purpose of painting a group of people as them because 'we' wouldn't do something like that surely?
2010-06-02 13:55:21
remember that he's dutch, must be smoking something ;)

Absolutely and it should make me more relaxed ... Just imagine what will happen if I don't smoke something :)


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2010-06-02 13:58:19
you become belgian :P
2010-06-02 14:03:48
we don't import dutchmen ;)
2010-06-02 14:11:39
this is quite interesting

"Hanin Zoabi, a member of the Israeli parliament, was on board the Miva Marmara, the ship that was the scene of a confrontation between activists and Israeli soldiers. That clash left at least nine people dead.

The Israeli Navy fired on the ships five minutes before commandos descended from ropes that dangled from helicopters, Zoabi said during a press conference in Nazareth, Israel. She said passengers on board the ship were unarmed."


from here
2010-06-02 14:54:45
were unarmed ?

Israely soldiers fired to the sky and not toward the ships , there were 7 ships and in the other 6 ships no one get injured !
She also said that she didn't see that they used iron bars and knives to hit the soldiers .

She is Arab so you can understand why she is lying .
Our democracy allows her to be elected to the Knesset in spite of Jews in Arab countries can not be elected to Parliament by law .
2010-06-02 14:54:46
2010-06-02 15:03:37
mate, like I previously mentioned in this thread, I have not decided on where the justice lies in this situation because I lack all the necessary information. I just posted an article that contradicts what Israelis keep saying.

Trust me, if 90% of the people that return home now will respond in interviews that the IDF started firing without provocation Israel will have a serious problem.

The only thing I regret is the uncessary loss of human lives and you know just as well that Israel is known for being "trigger happy" on many ocassions.

I have visited Israel a few times and I liked it but it is somewhat disturbing seeing armed people all over the place, recruits leaving home with their weapons, a small young woman carrying a sniper into a movie theater (she was on leave) as well as hearing all the stories from the people I worked with about how they fly helicopters, fighter planes and leading squadrons into battle.

Just my two cents (I know you guys are on hostile grounds but most of you already know why that is).
2010-06-02 15:17:55
She is Arab so you can understand why she is lying .

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by posting something like that.
2010-06-02 15:29:59
arab = liar
different opinion = liar
diverging evidence = propaganda

so, how do you legitimize your opinion, exactly?