Subject: Intelligent Political Discussion Thread

A terror organization is bad.
Why there is a barricade over Gaza and not the west bank? same Palestinians but different approach.
I am afraid to tell you if you fire missiles every day at civilians you are not my brother.

Would you let a ship come to your country with cocaine?
Why should I let a ship with weapons come to Gaza?

We asked them to turn the cargo to Gaza to the red cross, so the red cross will pass it through land.
Egypt asked them to pass the cargo to Gaza through land at their gates by the red cross.
Did they really want to aid or wanted to aid Hamas ?

Do brothers built walls around each other? Didn't think so!

This is bullshit of course, but stop saying it is all the Palestinians' fault. There is no 'good side' in a conflict.

I am trying to understand what your saying... ?
An organization that kidnaps an Israeli solider from Israel soil and wont let the red cross see him is a bad side.
A side who killed 131 Palestinians in a violent coup is the bad side.

But I dont have to show Hamas is bad, they are a known terrorist group furthermore I dont even have to show there is a bad side. Just that we work as a humanitarian side unlike hamas

I am trying to understand what your saying... ?

And what is it that you don't understand?

but i thought palestina was an independent state? So why need to pass the israel border?
And if palestina isn't an independent state, why they can't vote for the parlement in Israel?

I am going to play basketball, feel free to post and I will try to answer today or tomorrow.

Palestine isnt part of Israel and will never be part of Israel.
Palestine isnt independent state, and they need to pass goods through our borders because they are at the state of war with Israel. although they are at the state of war against us we provide them with electricity from a plant which was bombed by them at 2009, were providing them with water, food, schools supply, gas, oil. every thing they need.

I dont know to many nation who says, even though you bomb our city's every day we will give you aid.
Even though there is a blockade they find the way to pass weapons in, if they were really hungry they would pass food through not arms.

BTW on that ship there was fire arms, which some of those arms were used to shoot at the israeli soldiers who stupidly board the ships with paint guns

Palestine isn't an independent state. Palestinians have authority over their land, but not an official independent state.

And @ Israeli who only blame Palestinians: start with your own, and give Golan back to Syria.

Rubinho don't be too hard: remember yourself with the flemish issue

For the rest: Israel and The palestians should start up some serious talks with no secret agendas.

I don't think you can compare the Israel/Palestine conflict in any way with our situation ...

No but it's him against all of you :p

My thread is ruined :-O
I leave you for a day, look what happens.

The truth behind the commission of the human rights:

that is nothing new. It is the usual isralean story: they started it/you did a far worse thing in your country.
They discussed the terrorist attack from israel and he start talking about Darfur....

LOL ?
Why do we need to give part of our country to Syria?
It was a territory that was well fought against not less then 4 Arab nations.
There is no reason on earth to give back the Golan.

It is the same as I will ask for the houses of 50,000 Jews that lived in Belgium before world war 2.
Or even more absurd it will like Holland will ask to get Belgium back cause of the 1815 pact which gave Belgium to Holland.

There are barely any former Syria citizens at The Golan and most of them are loyal to Israel and if the Golan will ever be exchanged for peace with Syria they will choose to be in Israel then Syria.

Any way the Golan situation isnt important but for one part. why does Israel the smallest country in the region, numbers wise and territory wise should give territory's for peace ?
Why does the Arabs dont want to just have peace ?
Why every time there is peace Israel had to give something for it ?
With Jordan we gave up water and we live in a desert, do you realize how water is scarce
For that peace United state gave up the huge bill Jordan had
We gave Jordan 400 square km to Jordan

And what did we get in return? peace, nothing more.
Dont get me wrong I am glad for the peace but you can see how it shows Israel is doing all that we can to get to peace.

Same story goes for Egypt

noeok please explain to me how could it be a terrorist attack if we have the law on our side ?
Please explain to me how could a terrorist organization which was raided by Turkeys official can claim for being attacked when there is a video of those terrorists throwing a solider over board, hitting a solider with iron bars repeatedly, using fire arms.

He is merely pointing out one problem the UN isnt a civil right congress it is merely a congress that is main purpose is to condemn Israel.

Before that resolution the UN made a resolution to get Israel disarmed from our atom, were a democracy and there is no way we will use it. A country like Iran who constantly swear to wipe out Israel and the western civilization, or Pakistan with a very risky and unstable regime, or north Korea with their nice nuclear experiments, all of those countries didnt get a mention, just Israel.

Is it due to the fact that the UN has more representative from Arab Asians and the rest of the world and less nations from Europe ?
This is a bias organization it has one purpose only and it is to criticize Israel, fact is they didnt even wait for the fun facts, like the use of paint balls rifles, the soldiers only started firing after the "peace" activists shot them.

I would never put those soldiers at that risk and i were to make this decision the soldiers would climb on that ship with at least rubber bullets.