Subject: Intelligent Political Discussion Thread

I try to make a difference between Israeli ( Jews + atheist Jews as you call them ) and the Jews. It's not because you live in Israel, that you are a Jew. But that doesn't mean you don't think Jewish culture isn't important. Just like I am not a Christian ( I'm not religious ), but that doesn't mean I don't think Christianity or the Christian traditions and values aren't important. So basically, I am an atheist, who thinks that Christian values and moral is important ( might sound weird ). And I guess that's the same as you are an atheist, who think Jewish values are important, without actually being a religious Jew.

Of course, that's my point of view. Maybe you don't make the difference I do.

Some states in Europe have cross on their flag , this mean it's not democratic ?

I don't get what you mean by this ...

you're right :)

I basically think all religions are stupid and started most of the wars on earth. I can see importance they used to have but I cant see it any more.
I dont think I am a less of a person since I dont believe in god, religion is a way to control people and thats mainly what I dont like about it.

that was an answer to the question how can Israel be democratic if it's Jewish state

And to make the difference between an Israeli ( Jews + atheist Jews ) and a Muslim family in Israel, I call that family Palestinians. I don't know if that's right, but it makes it easier to see the difference.

auw. That doesn't sound healthy at all. If jewish people come all from 1 tribe and merry only peoply from that tribe since centuries there should be a high risk for genetic abnormailies.

O.k :)
Btw many christians are also live in israel
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They are Israelis not Palestinians, they dont want to move to Gaza or the west bank, they want to stay in Israel.
Every one who decided to stay on Israel soil after the declaration of Israel at 48 were given an Israeli nationality

Then you should learn what those crosses stand for. I suppose you mean the cross in the flag of Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark? That's just the Scandinavian Cross, it has nothing to do with religion. England's cross is of the patron saint of England, so that is religion-based.

It's just to make a difference between Jew-based atheists and Muslims. Don't those Muslims want an Arab state again, or am I wrong? If I'm wrong, I won't call them Palestinians anymore, but Muslim Israeli.

Actually a cross symbolises christianity :)

Nice one :)
Dont worry

but if we say turk to someone who is original from turkey, but live alreacdy 3 generations in belgium and don't speak turkish, it is called political incorrect

Okay, but the flag of Denmark is almost a thousand years old, and it has nowadays nothing to do with Christianity, does it? While the David star in Israel's flag ( I don't say it shouldn't be there, I just say there is a difference ) really stands for Jews. Israel is a real national Jew state, while Denmark etc. aren't national Christian states, it wasn't created for the Christians ;-)

Palestine was never really a country, it was a region nothing more.
There are 2 approaches 1) get all refugees to Israel so we will have majority
2) Muslims who see them selves as Israeli to all intend and purpose, though all of them are Israeli no matter what.