Subject: Intelligent Political Discussion Thread

Palestine was never really a country, it was a region nothing more.
There are 2 approaches 1) get all refugees to Israel so we will have majority
2) Muslims who see them selves as Israeli to all intend and purpose, though all of them are Israeli no matter what.

True that.

There is also a big difference of how those states were formed.
Israel were formed after a Holocaust which wiped out half of jewish members all over the world.
Only then we understood we had to find a country which will be only for us, so we wont die every century by the millions.
I am afraid we were never popular... see history...

At the Holocaust Germany used the star of David to mark a Jewish from the rest. we have a great relations with it, not because it represent our religion which it has nothing to do with but it represent our past and our heritage
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I respect Jews and their history. But I don't think that IF Israel wouldn't have been created ( which I don't say should ) that Jews would be killed in Europe. I think after Holocaust and WW II in general, Europe has been civilized very quick.

And I don't say it's wrong that the David star is on your flag.

I am sorry, I am not sure what you wrote, can you please explain .
Dont forget English is not my native tongue.

Mine neither ;-) I say that since Holocaust, at least Europe ( the Western World in total in fact ) have civilized very fast, so now Europe is humane, and I don't think something like that is possible nowadays, luckily of course. With or without a national Jew state ( I don't mean that Israel shouldn't be an Jew state, I understand it, given to the history Jews had to suffer ) in my opinion. I hope you understand now ;-)

I am sorry my friend but I am going to sleep it is almost 4 am and I have to drive to the university tomorrow morning .
I will gladly continue speaking with you tomorrow, good night friend.

I won't be awake very long neither, Saturday I have exam at university ;-)

Oh yeah. Your right Europe made a giant leap. But still it isnt safe every where, need I remind you what happened when there was caricatures of allah ? or when a museum exhibit drawing of allah ?
Jews are already leaving Europe since there is a new age there and Jews are afraid.
In the last years there was a big immigration from France because of new found racism.

I have to submit a paper tomorrow and I havent even started writing it, I think it will be the worst paper ever

The problem is the 'new Europeans' to not call them as a religion. It were Muslims who were mad about the caricatures etc., not the Christian or Christian-based Europeans.

This was more than just mad. It was madness what happened in Europe at that time. some cartoons.. big deal. :P

Europe wont be christian based much longer. you have slightly less growth in population as we do, and as we probably wont be the majority in Israel I am afraid it will be the same for you

I have decided to at least attempt to start the paper.
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I did not read whole debate, but jews and Izreal are now maybe worse or same evil like Hitler was, because world was fighting against Hitler at the past but world is now doing nothing against the huge aggressivity, racism and genocide which is made by Israel in nowadays.

And please do not answer me that stupidity like Isreal is defender :-D :-D we all know that WWII was not started by "Polish attack on german transmitter", like Hitler was saying :-)

Israel should be defeated like Hitler and most of country should be divided into neighbour freedom states.

That is my opinion, tell me yours :-)

Mine neither ;-) I say that since Holocaust, at least Europe ( the Western World in total in fact ) have civilized very fast, so now Europe is humane, and I don't think something like that is possible nowadays, luckily of course.

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So Cosbo war and all that was done there was not in civilized Europe ?

I don't think you will ever care to read the whole thread, because nothing you read there would change your extreme position.
This is a thread of debate, but debate can be made only by people who care to exchange opinions.

Don't bother.